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 Aug 12, 2006 - 7:38 PM
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I've heard talk of people thinking about it but have never seen any factual attempts. These things need a sixth gear.
I was pondering, and it probably wouldn't be toooooooo terribly difficult to have a bell housing adapter made for something like a 7th gen and then have a custom input shaft in a longer length made. Are there any other ideas floating around out there? --------------------  |
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May 5, 2009 - 12:39 PM
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still didn't answer my question.. lol i wasn't trying to boast... just trying to figure out why people are calling for longer gears in an e153...
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May 6, 2009 - 12:11 PM
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QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ May 5, 2009 - 5:39 PM)  still didn't answer my question.. lol i wasn't trying to boast... just trying to figure out why people are calling for longer gears in an e153... Longer gears utilize engine torque better for acceleration... shorter gears utilize horsepower and engine speed. If you have an abundance of low-mid range torque, longer gears will keep you in your power band longer. Anyway... yeah... The 2010 camrys are set to have a 6 speed manual and auto on the 4 banger... which is the AZ engine family... which came with a variant of the E seires trans if I remember correctly. A new possibility for the S series people perhaps? This post has been edited by Kwanza26: May 6, 2009 - 12:13 PM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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May 6, 2009 - 12:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 25, '05 From Fort Wayne, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ May 6, 2009 - 12:11 PM) QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ May 5, 2009 - 5:39 PM) still didn't answer my question.. lol i wasn't trying to boast... just trying to figure out why people are calling for longer gears in an e153... Longer gears utilize engine torque better for acceleration... shorter gears utilize horsepower and engine speed. If you have an abundance of low-mid range torque, longer gears will keep you in your power band longer. I think your thinking is a little backwards there. Gearing has nothing to do with HP. The reason gearing affects acceleration is because of the torque multiplication effect they have by keeping the car in the powerband. Typically you'll find that the shorter the gearing the better the acceleration. This holds especially true for high revving vehicles because you NEED to be higher in the RPM's to effectively utilize your power. On the other side, a vehicle that's got an abundance of power will typically be able to use a lower gear ratio because it's depending on output to move the vehicle and doesn't need to torque multiplication crutch to get it moving. Case in point, the 6GC. Stock, it needs the gear ratios found in the 5 speed to get it moving quickly. However, with a 3S-GTE swap, this becomes a hinderance because you end up with a higher torque multiplication factor, thus can pretty much at will break the tires free as well as if you do manage to keep traction, you scream straight through your powerband and have to find another gear. This post has been edited by Fastbird: May 6, 2009 - 12:44 PM -------------------- |
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Fastbird Six Speed in a 6GC Aug 12, 2006 - 7:38 PM
WH95TE Would be neat. Aug 12, 2006 - 7:50 PM dustinkemp i think you volunteered yourself lol
nah but it w... Aug 12, 2006 - 7:55 PM Kwanza26 yeah... but gearing would be very poor for the 5SF... Aug 12, 2006 - 7:55 PM gt_driFFter I don't know if it makes a different, but he d... Aug 12, 2006 - 7:59 PM Fastbird My reasoning is that on the highway I can't st... Aug 12, 2006 - 8:08 PM
Kwanza26 QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 13, 2006 - 1:08... Aug 12, 2006 - 8:53 PM
o0black0o QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 12, 2006 - 8:08... Aug 15, 2006 - 7:37 AM lagos QUOTEMy reasoning is that on the highway I can... Aug 12, 2006 - 9:07 PM playr158 you don't need 6 gears...
we need taller gears... Aug 12, 2006 - 9:56 PM Dr_Tweak Using the 7th gen GTS tranny would pretty much be ... Aug 14, 2006 - 9:20 PM j0e_p3t hasn't anyone tried swapping a 6 speed blackto... Aug 14, 2006 - 11:16 PM burneeed theres a guy in ... I think hes somewhere in europ... Aug 15, 2006 - 12:01 AM Silver94CelicaOwner Yeah, our cars really need a 6th gear or a much lo... Aug 15, 2006 - 12:35 AM DEAMON how much money and who woudl make it
the 7th gen... Aug 15, 2006 - 1:15 AM hitcachi Best solution and fastest way to a 6 speed celica ... Aug 15, 2006 - 1:39 AM playr158 like i already said someone needs to take the OEM ... Aug 15, 2006 - 1:41 AM burneeed QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 15, 2006 - 1:41... Aug 15, 2006 - 5:14 PM Fastbird Does anyone have the gear ratios and final drive r... Aug 15, 2006 - 7:44 AM celicaST QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 15, 2006 - 6:44... Aug 15, 2006 - 9:38 AM x_itchy_b_x id buy a longer finally gear. 80mph at 4k sucks wh... Aug 15, 2006 - 9:57 AM Kadett QUOTE(celicaST @ Aug 15, 2006 - 4:38... Aug 15, 2006 - 12:34 PM dutchboy Could you put the e153 5th gear in the ST's C5... Jun 28, 2007 - 4:41 PM mandrek im quite curiouse about this too.. is it not posib... Oct 10, 2007 - 2:34 AM frosty QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 15, 2006 - 6:41... Oct 10, 2007 - 8:46 AM twitchh17 QUOTE(frosty @ Oct 10, 2007 - 8:46 A... Oct 16, 2007 - 7:09 PM dutchboy QUOTE (dutchboy @ Jun 28, 2007 - 4:4... Sep 27, 2008 - 2:49 PM richee3 Man, a 6 speed would be crazy... I'd love to h... Sep 27, 2008 - 3:49 PM Daftboy I believe that the blacktop 4age 6 speed fits righ... Sep 27, 2008 - 3:58 PM delusionz i can only think of trying bigger wheels and a spe... Sep 28, 2008 - 5:09 AM presure2 e135 FTMFBBQ win in the celica, with a swap.
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