Will's Project 5SGTE Options

[bccentaur3]

So I was planning on doing another 5sfte set-up, but thought why not just go about doing a 5sgte set-up.

I don't plan on running an EMS anytime soon. Although down the road its obvious that I will have to.

The plan is to buy a complete 3rd gen 3sge motor. Thats right a 3sge motor. The plan is to just take the head and all the electronics and TRY to sell the block. I already have turbo parts, minus the turbo. I will run with the 3sge ecu, but with the emanage ultimate.

Injectors since the 3sge is side feed, I will probably go with 540s. Not sure what injectors the 3rd gen 3sge uses.

I have been in contact with MCS and I will be probably be getting a crank that has already been turned down to accept the stock 3sgte rods I am using. The cost of their crank is 300, but I am in the process of shopping around to see if its cheaper to machine down the crank I have out of the 94 block. The plus side to MCS is the fact that they use 98+ cranks only.

I will have the wiring harness converted for me by Doc.

I did originally plan to build the bottom end with the following parts and get the 5sfe cams regrind from Geoff at Colt Cams for $400, oversized valves from a 2jz and do the head up. To be honest the machining is the thing that makes both plans pricey.

I DO want to build a 5sfTe beast, but at the same time Just think of having a 5sgte.

What do you guys think I should do. I'm going to be honest, I have been researching day and night for the past week. Not going to bed until 4AM and the first thing I do when I wake up is log onto the internet.

Lets make this final and end my dilemma.

-Will

This post has been edited by bccentaur3: Feb 19, 2009 - 11:14 PM

[bccentaur3]

Hey guys, update on the project.

A couple of weeks ago I found a local selling a junk st165. My initial plan was to buy the car and tow it back home. Because my only access to a truck to tow a car was my uncle and he bailed out on me that morning I had to opt for plan B.

So get this.. After looking at everything closely you CAN use a 5s headgasket on with the 1st gen 3sgte head, BUT you will have to modify the HG and drill one coolant hole.

BUT I do not intend on doing this, because I'd rather do it the hard way and drill my block for the coolant passages.

I will update with more pics of the differences on the blocks.

So the plan for now is this

1st gen 3sgte head

ATS 264 camshafts made for the 1st gen head
1st gen 3sge side feed intake manifold
delete tvis

I am in the process of making a jumper harness to run the 2nd gen 3sgte ECU, hopefully if I can find a 93 ecu, higher fuel cut.

I'm still waiting on MCS STILL!!!!!!!!!! They told me that if they don't ship it out by LAST week I should get a full refund. Haven't heard from them yet.

I have a spare crank, but it just seemed like a better idea to go with MCS since you'd think they know their stuff right?

I'll update with pics of the block differences and the head, since Sammie didn't take any pics of the head when I asked her to.