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post Jun 7, 2009 - 6:22 PM
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A few months back I started the research, measuring, freezing fingering task to fit ST205 brakes on a USDM Celica.

the first step was to pair a ST205 caliper on USDM system to see what were the differences, well, the bolt holes are EXACTLY at the same distance, but unlike our stock calipers, the ST205 calipers have no thread on them, reason being that these ( st205 ) calipers are mount on the back of the knuckle, not on front like the stock ones, so this presents the first thing we need to work on, the other issue was rotors, no need to remind you how small the USDM rotors are, so they are useless here, we had a set of ST205 rotors, but there are 3 main problems with them, first, in order to fit them on our suspension, the caliper has to be modified, this modification involves grinding a few mm ( ~ 10 ) out of the bracket so the rotor falls dead center with the caliper, the second issue is that with the location of our holes on the knuckle the caliper can not accept anything bigger than 300 mm, and the 3rd problem is that ST205 rotors are not available in the states, the cost for them overseas + shipping charges = way out of my and most people price range ( ~ US$600.00 )


so ok, the first thing I did was ordered a set of IS300 as there was a rumor that they'd fit, hmmmm no, they don't, but at least with them I took some measurements that helped me get on the right path, I got on the phone with a partner in business, and using the measurements and the specs of USDM and ST205 celica, we came up with a rotor that seem to fit " in theory " lol.

I got such rotors a week later, and we tried them on, the fitment was PERFECT, for the caliper we, took the knuckle off and thread tap them, so no we have how to bolt the calipers, and have rotors that fit, went to tried them on the car, and guess what ? everything works perfectly, just one last thing, the wheels didn't fit, so right now we're waiting for my spacers to get here, so fit them on.

to resume..
here are the step to fit ST205 brakes on a USDM celica

1. take the knuckle off the car and thread tap them thread taps are available anywhere, buy matching bolts for the thread you are tapping ( grade 8 bolts please ) use a 1/2 x 20 tap or finer thread. ( the one used on the pictures is 9/16 x 20 but no need to go that big as that will require to drill the hole to make it a little bigger.

2. order these Custom rotors from me tongue.gif ( before you ask, if for some reason I can't supply them to you anymore, all the specs are sources will be posted, I'm not gonna screw anyone )

3. install, you'll most likely need new brake lines as the stock ones are not long enough, so take the opportunity and buy some Stainless Steel lines.

for brake pads, go to your local dealer, ST205 brake pads are exactly the same as Supra Twin turbo brakes,

4. if you need spacers for your wheels, I can supply those as well, I'm working numbers to offer a discounted price if you order rotors and spacers at the same time.


now enjoy the pictures, and let me know if there is any question.

























*the pictures show the rotor a little rusty, because they've been outside for a while, also things are just mocked on, not tighten as the calipers are still being painted. what you're looking at is a work in progress.

These are the spacers I'll be offering to everyone, hubcentric, made out of forged Aluminum, CNC machined, with longer studs. they'll be offer on thickness of 10 mm, 15mm, and 20 mm.


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post Jun 12, 2009 - 11:13 AM
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Culp, what size wheels are you running on your setup? Where is the clearance issue on the wheel? Is it that the actual backside of the face of the wheel needing spacing or "other"?


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- Culpable04   ST205 Brakes on a ST   Jun 7, 2009 - 6:22 PM
- - pipes   good job culp soon you will be feeling 12 piston s...   Jun 7, 2009 - 6:49 PM
- - vincent_doggy   Welcome pal, can start your late brake practice...   Jun 7, 2009 - 7:24 PM
- - _Jim_   GREAT LOOKING KIT STEVENSON! I CANT WAIT FOR ...   Jun 7, 2009 - 9:07 PM
- - Rusty   so (im just making sure) a tiny bit of grinding re...   Jun 8, 2009 - 12:53 AM
- - Culpable04   You will also need the rotors on the pictures, the...   Jun 8, 2009 - 6:12 AM
- - malpaso   You are great... Can't wait to work on somethi...   Jun 8, 2009 - 6:24 AM
- - boosted95   culp, please pardon the thread jack*** ive got al...   Jun 8, 2009 - 8:42 AM
- - azian_advanced   Can you supply custom slotted rotors (front & ...   Jun 8, 2009 - 7:26 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Jun 8, 2009 - 7...   Jun 8, 2009 - 7:37 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Jun 7, 2009 - 7...   Jun 8, 2009 - 9:25 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (playr158 @ Jun 8, 2009 - 9:25...   Jun 9, 2009 - 9:58 AM
- - azian_advanced   cool, i guess i'll wait til you get the rears ...   Jun 8, 2009 - 10:32 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jun 9, 2009 - 10:58 A...   Jun 9, 2009 - 11:07 AM
- - Fastbird   Culp, what size wheels are you running on your set...   Jun 12, 2009 - 11:13 AM
- - Culpable04   I have 16s, we tried it on jim's 17s and he ne...   Jun 12, 2009 - 1:41 PM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Jun 12, 2009 - 1...   Jun 12, 2009 - 1:49 PM
- - Culpable04   Fastbird, start hunting down your ST205 calipers, ...   Jun 12, 2009 - 2:58 PM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Jun 12, 2009 - 2...   Jun 12, 2009 - 4:42 PM
- - Fastbird   You've inspired me man. I'm lining up cal...   Jun 17, 2009 - 7:35 PM
- - AnaXyd   Fantastic! Exactly what I have been looking fo...   Jun 18, 2009 - 7:15 AM
- - Culpable04   the calipers are completely stock, no grinding is ...   Jun 18, 2009 - 8:19 AM
- - AnaXyd   Same here, I dont like weak spots in my breaking s...   Jun 18, 2009 - 9:47 AM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (AnaXyd @ Jun 18, 2009 - 9:47 ...   Jun 18, 2009 - 11:01 AM
- - Culpable04   this is a picture of a ST205 stock rotor ( underne...   Jun 18, 2009 - 11:12 AM
- - AnaXyd   Have you tested that this works on the car, yet? ...   Jun 18, 2009 - 2:06 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (AnaXyd @ Jun 18, 2009 - 3:06 ...   Jun 18, 2009 - 5:19 PM
- - Fastbird   You're not using that rotor in the pic are you...   Jun 18, 2009 - 5:42 PM
- - _Jim_   BWHAHAHAHAHAH HELL NO! This was in the beginn...   Jun 18, 2009 - 6:27 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (Fastbird @ Jun 18, 2009 - 5:4...   Jun 18, 2009 - 6:49 PM
- - Rusty   quite inerested in this right so just make sure fo...   Jun 18, 2009 - 7:24 PM
- - Culpable04   any ST205 brake lines ( OEM / aftermarket ) will ...   Jun 18, 2009 - 8:11 PM
- - delusionz   I'll be watching this thread closely too, I al...   Jun 19, 2009 - 3:06 AM
- - delusionz   PS. The GT4's stopping power impresses me more...   Jun 19, 2009 - 3:13 AM
- - Fastbird   I am finalizing a deal on a set of calipers right ...   Jun 19, 2009 - 7:42 AM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (Fastbird @ Jun 19, 2009 - 8:4...   Jun 19, 2009 - 8:26 AM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Jun 19, 2009 - 8...   Jun 19, 2009 - 8:30 AM
- - Culpable04   lol It's done by the same places that distribu...   Jun 19, 2009 - 9:01 AM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Jun 19, 2009 - 9...   Jun 19, 2009 - 9:33 AM
- - Fastbird   *edit* I'm going to start my own post for pro...   Jun 19, 2009 - 9:41 AM
- - Culpable04   I'm glad you pointed out the PMs, so that mean...   Jun 19, 2009 - 11:00 AM
- - DEATH   Fastbird: I've worked in sales for over ten ye...   Jun 19, 2009 - 1:25 PM
- - Fastbird   I wasn't asking for absolute specs. All I wan...   Jun 19, 2009 - 2:04 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE Ok, I've got a bead on two sets of front...   Jun 19, 2009 - 5:49 PM
- - presure2   closed by request.   Jun 19, 2009 - 6:04 PM


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