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post Apr 21, 2007 - 10:11 PM
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Dr_Tweak



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First question you all are going to ask is, why is the turbo way over there? The turbo is so big that it literally would not fit between the radiator support and the engine. So I built an up-pipe to go from the manifold to the turbo.

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This is a 3/4" turbo drain, which is huge, but I wanted to make 100% sure that there wasn't a draining problem.

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The downpipe....

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Inlet and outlet of the radiator modified...

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This monster is a 3000cfm fan (not a typo).

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This intercooler is the real thing... Garrett core, 3 1/2" thick....

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post Jun 18, 2009 - 9:22 AM
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I know this is a very, very old topic. I haven't been on here since I totaled my '94 celica in July of '07, i miss that car. I know some guys who would like to twin-charge their cars.

My question is Dr. Tweak do you have a diagram of how you set this system up? or could you explain how you ran the piping? how well did it work?

I've always admired you work. One of the best I have ever seen. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Nick
post Jun 22, 2009 - 10:21 AM
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QUOTE (nbg401 @ Jun 18, 2009 - 10:22 AM) *
I know this is a very, very old topic. I haven't been on here since I totaled my '94 celica in July of '07, i miss that car. I know some guys who would like to twin-charge their cars.

My question is Dr. Tweak do you have a diagram of how you set this system up? or could you explain how you ran the piping? how well did it work?

I've always admired you work. One of the best I have ever seen. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Nick


Hi Nick, and thanks to all of you for the kind comments.

Honestly I wasn't real happy with the end result of this system. A lot of it had to do with the fact that I did it for a few hundred bucks for a friend with a VERY limited budget. The end result was that not enough time or money was spent in some important places (fuel management specifically) and that caused some problems (he blew the engine). He replaced the long block and ran it again with no other changes and unfortunately that engine starting having problems as well. I had him bring the car back to me for some diagnosis and to change the fuel management to an AEM F/IC and do some better tuning. After a compression test I found that one of the cylinders was bad so we stopped there. He ended up bringing the car to another friend to have the whole system redone and the engine rebuilt. He felt that the system that I built on the engine was faulty and that I owed him a new engine. Long story short I bought a new engine for him. Unfortunately there's a lot of resentment on both sides and the whole ordeal all but put an end to the friendship.

The moral of the story is:

1. When it comes to your job, don't do favors for friends. You don't get paid for your work, your friend doesn't get the service he deserves, and the friendship may be damaged irreparably.
2. When it comes to doing unusual, out-of-the box builds, make sure you have enough money, don't cut corners, and be prepared for setbacks.

As far as the subject of twin-charging, I think that it could still be done effectively but some things need to be changed to make better use of both the supercharger and the turbo. Also I would have used a larger turbo and found a way of combining the charged pipes instead of feeding one to the other. The bottom line is that the expense probably is higher than the benefit that you get and money would be better spent on a straight turbo build, unless you really want to do something unusual.

-Doc

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Posts in this topic
- Dr_Tweak   Twin-charged 4AGZE (40+ pics!)   Apr 21, 2007 - 10:11 PM
- - devilsden97   nvm....u answered it.   Apr 21, 2007 - 10:12 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   More pics of the downpipe... Mocking ...   Apr 21, 2007 - 10:13 PM
|- - Slick   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Apr 22, 2007 - 5:13...   Apr 22, 2007 - 3:17 PM
- - lagos   maybe its time to invest in a sand blaster?   Apr 21, 2007 - 10:17 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Comments for pics added. This is a '94 Corol...   Apr 21, 2007 - 10:26 PM
- - 95st-celica   my eyes hurt from all the pics......lol....looks g...   Apr 21, 2007 - 10:30 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   You'll note that p/s and a/c have been retaine...   Apr 21, 2007 - 10:40 PM
- - bccentaur3   Don't forget to post up some numbers Doc. I wo...   Apr 21, 2007 - 11:19 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE The owner has some ideas for blinging up the...   Apr 21, 2007 - 11:28 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 22, 2007 - 4:28 AM...   Apr 21, 2007 - 11:46 PM
|- - phonex98   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 22, 2007 - 4:28 AM...   Apr 22, 2007 - 1:36 AM
- - CelicaGT04   dang those pipes are CONFUSING!!!...   Apr 22, 2007 - 12:09 AM
- - Valo666   all im sayin is Werd. That thing is nuts. Any plan...   Apr 22, 2007 - 2:35 AM
- - Hanyo   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 21, 2007 - 9:28 PM...   Apr 22, 2007 - 5:57 AM
- - presure2   hehe tweek, looks like that thing would be a fun r...   Apr 22, 2007 - 7:01 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Valo666 @ Apr 22, 2007 - 7:35 ...   Apr 22, 2007 - 7:30 AM
- - NuclearHappineS   amazing work doc 1 comment, can you cage that fan...   Apr 22, 2007 - 9:05 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Apr 22, 2007 - 2...   Apr 22, 2007 - 9:11 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   I was going to run one at the turbo, but the filte...   Apr 22, 2007 - 7:07 PM
- - Batman722   nice but, isn't that blue rubber oil return ...   Apr 22, 2007 - 9:47 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Batman722 @ Apr 23, 2007 - 2:4...   Apr 22, 2007 - 10:09 PM
- - CelicaZR   Awesome work Doc and AngryMike   Apr 22, 2007 - 10:03 PM
- - angrymike   this was all tweaks mad science. i did a little a...   Apr 22, 2007 - 10:21 PM
- - normality78   So you're using supercharged to push the turbo...   Apr 25, 2007 - 1:42 AM
- - Hanyo   QUOTE(normality78 @ Apr 24, 2007 - 11...   Apr 25, 2007 - 2:53 AM
- - nbg401   I know this is a very, very old topic. I haven...   Jun 18, 2009 - 9:22 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE (nbg401 @ Jun 18, 2009 - 10:22...   Jun 22, 2009 - 10:21 AM
- - pitcelica   the real big thing would be a dual intercooler, tw...   Jun 19, 2009 - 11:01 AM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (pitcelica @ Jun 19, 2009 - 11...   Jun 19, 2009 - 11:59 AM
- - delusionz   the old 80's supercharged mr2 cars had the 4a-...   Jun 20, 2009 - 3:56 AM
- - GMan   Incredible work. I had to scratch my head a few...   Jun 20, 2009 - 8:31 PM
- - 2bcelica   that sucks Tweak. U do good work ur friend started...   Jun 22, 2009 - 10:29 AM
- - Fastbird   Your friend must not be too bright, adding a power...   Jun 22, 2009 - 10:55 AM
- - GriffGirl   That's a real shame that it ruined your friend...   Jun 22, 2009 - 11:09 AM
- - nbg401   Thanks Doc. Sorry to hear about all that happene...   Jun 22, 2009 - 12:41 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Thanks guys -Doc   Jun 23, 2009 - 11:19 AM
- - cheela   His loss, i'd let you build my engine anyday...   Jun 23, 2009 - 11:38 AM


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