 how much HP does the 4age made?, silver top vs black top |
 Jul 6, 2009 - 11:13 PM
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hi guys. I am about to do the 4age swap.
I want to know how many HP does the silver top made? and how many does the black top made? |
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Jul 7, 2009 - 4:49 PM
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As any quick search would yield...
Toyota over rated the 20V line - stating that the Silvertop (ST) was 160hp and the Blacktop (BT) was 170. When I had the yelli celi it was running a ST on BT electronics, Open ITB's and a 2.5" exhaust. It dyno'd 130whp. The shop owner (who specializes in the 4AG platform) told me this was on par, and that a BT swap would only put down 5WHP more. He also said that for modding purposes the ST is far superior due to not having such light, weak internals. -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jul 7, 2009 - 11:47 PM
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QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Jul 7, 2009 - 2:49 PM)  He also said that for modding purposes the ST is far superior due to not having such light, weak internals. I think HE is confused. The main difference is compresion ratio, the internals are basicly the same aside from higher comp pistons in the BT. -------------------- JDM guy made me do it.
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Jul 7, 2009 - 11:53 PM
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QUOTE (97lestyousay @ Jul 7, 2009 - 9:47 PM) QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Jul 7, 2009 - 2:49 PM) He also said that for modding purposes the ST is far superior due to not having such light, weak internals. I think HE is confused. The main difference is compresion ratio, the internals are basicly the same aside from higher comp pistons in the BT. The main difference is Toyota cut down rotational mass to gain more power. The connecting rods in the Blacktop are lighter (weaker) than those in the Silvertop. -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jul 8, 2009 - 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Jul 7, 2009 - 9:53 PM) QUOTE (97lestyousay @ Jul 7, 2009 - 9:47 PM) QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Jul 7, 2009 - 2:49 PM) He also said that for modding purposes the ST is far superior due to not having such light, weak internals. I think HE is confused. The main difference is compresion ratio, the internals are basicly the same aside from higher comp pistons in the BT. The main difference is Toyota cut down rotational mass to gain more power. The connecting rods in the Blacktop are lighter (weaker) than those in the Silvertop. You are correct, the bottom end in the blacktop is lightened. I would say for modding the gze would be the way to go. This post has been edited by 97lestyousay: Jul 8, 2009 - 12:40 AM -------------------- JDM guy made me do it.
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vi-tuyen how much HP does the 4age made? Jul 6, 2009 - 11:13 PM
lagos Your looking at around 120hp at the wheels. Right ... Jul 6, 2009 - 11:27 PM Mstoochn could have saved yourself the post by google.ca or... Jul 7, 2009 - 1:39 PM
vi-tuyen QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Jul 7, 2009 - 1:39... Jul 7, 2009 - 3:20 PM vi-tuyen QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Jul 7, 2009 - 5... Jul 7, 2009 - 6:19 PM 95CelicaST Blacktop will only put down 5-10 more whp than the... Jul 7, 2009 - 6:48 PM njccmd2002 might as well swap a 5sfe. why go low output engi... Jul 7, 2009 - 10:10 PM 97lestyousay The 4age is great motor for modest power. My stoc... Jul 7, 2009 - 11:40 PM Kwanza26 To appropriately answer...
haters will say the 2... Jul 12, 2009 - 8:58 PM soulshadow I would just get the 4agze, save yourself the head... Jul 13, 2009 - 11:16 PM lagos QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Jul 12, 2009 - 9:5... Jul 13, 2009 - 11:30 PM thyfire Don't mean to steal your tread, but I would li... Jul 21, 2009 - 6:19 AM |
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