The engine's in 7th and 6th gen Celica, Why did they change?? Options

[BonzaiCelica]

So i was thinking the other day of the difference between the motor's in the 6th gen and 7th gen celica's. The 3sge engine was a very potential motor with 3rd gen producing 177 hp 142 lb torque, 4th gen "Redtop Beams" 197hp 152 lb torque and the 5th gen "Blacktop" found in the Altezza producing 207 hp and 159 lb's torque. I would say those a pretty impressive numbers.

Honda has had their vtec since the nsx first came out in the early 90's and they have been improving ever since. So why did toyota decide to go with a 1zz-ge and 2zz-ge engine for the celica. I mean the displacement went down in .2 liters. The 1.8 ltr 2zz engine came with vvtl-i to compete with honda's vtec? In the US, the celica only produced a 180 hp and in japan it produced 190 hp. Then there was the trd celica which produced 194 hp. Still that wasnt even enough to touch the Integra type r B18c5 motor which produced 195 hp and had around the same torque as the 7th.

So why didnt toyota stick with the 3sge. They could have produced an 2 ltr engine that had around 215 hp with vvt-i on the intake and exhaust manifold just like the 3sge blacktop.

[BonzaiCelica]

ya stupid toyota with their boring economic cars

oh ya and hanyo lets not try to confuse anybody else when your talking about the integra. dont mix the words gsr with type r. you put the acura integra gsr type r. yes the integra gsr and integra type r have the same motors but the b18c5 is a tuned engine version of the gsr. So your saying the celica gt-s was built to compete with a integra gsr that was rated at 170hp??

oh and lets not say that the b18c5 will overtake the 3sge beams. cause their is a member on the redtop forums that did a monster build to the redtop beams and i believe he is pushing 250hp to the crank!!!

ya and rumors about the new celica having a boxer engine eww that would just playing suck, they need to build a celica engine with those yamaha engineers again