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post Aug 26, 2009 - 9:46 AM
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Good Day All.

I have some questions that i did not get from trolling and searchings. I hope that the some of the swap gurus can chime in.

Project: Swap 6gen JDM 3SGE Beams into 1994 USDM GT.
Goals: 200whp and reliability
Use: Race - Car will be completely gutted including all glass and prepped for racing.

Current setup is a stock 5SFE with 60k miles.
Transplanting 3SGE Beams and LSD S54 tranny. Yet to be procured. I have few I am looking at with money in hand.

Drivetrain - The 5SFE has an S54 on it and I assume that the axles and clutch will interchange?
Question#1 - Did any of the USDM Celicas with the S54 have stock LSD?
Question#2 - Flywheel and clutch upgrade? What are my options?

Electrical - Since its a same Gen Celica did the harnesses drastically change over the lifecycle of the 6th Gen? Pre Post OdbII?
Question#1 - Can someone confirm that the stock USDM harness will plug and play with the ECU and Beams? With exception to wires being lenghted to accomodate RHD vs LHD.
Question#2 - If my assumptions for one is complete off please guide me in the correct direction.
Question#3 - Dash Cluster - Racing I really do not care about speed as much as temps and RPM. I do not want to buy an JDM dash cluster is there a work around to make the stock one work? Otherwise will likely go the DEFI Link route.
Question#4 ODBII vs ODB1 The 94 is ODB1. The Beams will be ODBII Has anyone got this to work on a pre 96 vehicle? I only ask as ODB is a good way to check sensor failure vs the plug and play method.


Tuning
Goal of 200whp with Intake, Exhaust upgrade, no cat, no P/S, no A/C, Flywheel upgrade, ecu, ect.
Questions1 - Does anyone have experience with any of the JDM ECUs such as Mines, Toms, I.Mec, Blitz?
Question#2 - Headers any experience with C-One, Apexi, HKS, Fujitsubo?
Question#3 - Crank/Balancer Pulley.. Is there one?


Thanks in advance.

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post Aug 26, 2009 - 8:15 PM
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- turnip   Swap: 3sge Beams into 94GT-RIP=DEAD   Aug 26, 2009 - 9:46 AM
- - njccmd2002   http://www.mr2.com/forums/beams/ youll find more ...   Aug 26, 2009 - 11:59 AM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Aug 26, 2009 - 12...   Aug 26, 2009 - 3:39 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Aug 26, 2009 - 3...   Aug 26, 2009 - 4:38 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   first off. Welcome to the site. 6gc.net is the bes...   Aug 26, 2009 - 2:23 PM
- - Batman722   QUOTE (turnip @ Aug 26, 2009 - 10:46...   Aug 26, 2009 - 6:15 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 26, 2009 - 6...   Aug 26, 2009 - 6:30 PM
- - turnip   Appreciate all the help Batman. Here is the link...   Aug 26, 2009 - 8:08 PM
- - njccmd2002   where are you..   Aug 26, 2009 - 8:15 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Aug 26, 2009 - 9...   Aug 27, 2009 - 10:39 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   uh hold on a sec Batman. whats that your saying ab...   Aug 27, 2009 - 1:30 AM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Aug 27, 2009 - 2...   Aug 30, 2009 - 4:26 PM
|- - trdproven   QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 31, 2009 - 7...   Aug 31, 2009 - 9:51 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (trdproven @ Aug 31, 2009 - 9...   Sep 2, 2009 - 5:14 PM
- - turnip   And it begins. Picked Up Today Optimistic to...   Aug 29, 2009 - 9:38 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   oh ok thanks.   Aug 30, 2009 - 5:28 PM
- - njccmd2002   Congratulations, i recognize that beams, i think, ...   Aug 30, 2009 - 6:01 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Aug 30, 2009 - 6...   Aug 30, 2009 - 7:35 PM
- - Outsider   Can I assume that all of those cut wires come from...   Aug 30, 2009 - 7:56 PM
|- - turnip   Those cut wire represent the beams harness lead th...   Aug 31, 2009 - 9:16 AM
- - njccmd2002   So any 3 s will do, fidanza aluminum for the 3sgte...   Aug 31, 2009 - 10:23 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (trdproven @ Aug 31, 2009 - 10...   Aug 31, 2009 - 4:39 PM
- - turnip   Engine Coming out today. Sure would like to pul...   Sep 2, 2009 - 10:10 AM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 2, 2009 - 11:10 ...   Sep 2, 2009 - 5:04 PM
- - turnip   Its out. Down through the bottom it came. Its ...   Sep 2, 2009 - 7:27 PM
- - Smaay   yeah axles are a PITA getting out. one reason i lo...   Sep 6, 2009 - 4:19 PM
- - turnip   Engine in and hope to have it running this week. ...   Sep 7, 2009 - 8:27 PM
- - Rusty   wow you dont muck around, good to see more 3s-ge ...   Sep 8, 2009 - 1:02 AM
- - turnip   After a of crazy work week, I finally got a chance...   Sep 12, 2009 - 7:40 PM
- - Batman722   It's not just pins 4 and 17 on EA1, but interi...   Sep 13, 2009 - 12:08 AM
|- - turnip   First off. Thank you. I did look over the harne...   Sep 13, 2009 - 8:44 AM
|- - Batman722   sorry if I came off like a jerk, it was late at ni...   Sep 13, 2009 - 9:04 AM
|- - turnip   Its a manual. This celica is being gutted. C...   Sep 13, 2009 - 9:13 AM
- - Batman722   the reason I ask if it was an auto is the pink wir...   Sep 13, 2009 - 10:54 AM
- - turnip   I will get some up today. It turns over and sou...   Sep 13, 2009 - 11:20 AM
- - Rusty   whoa is that compression right? 3sge (3gen) is abo...   Sep 14, 2009 - 12:52 AM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (Rusty @ Sep 14, 2009 - 12:52 ...   Sep 14, 2009 - 9:29 AM
|- - Rusty   QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 15, 2009 - 2:29 ...   Sep 15, 2009 - 12:39 AM
- - erahman85   does the stock 5sfe MAF sensor work with the 3sgem...   Sep 14, 2009 - 4:46 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (erahman85 @ Sep 14, 2009 - 4...   Sep 15, 2009 - 5:08 AM
- - turnip   Anyone have a beams B-pipe laying around the want ...   Sep 14, 2009 - 8:11 PM
- - njccmd2002   what is the b pipe? the second part of the exhaus...   Sep 14, 2009 - 8:36 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 14, 2009 - 8...   Sep 14, 2009 - 8:59 PM
- - Batman722   the issue is the b pipe and rest of the exhaust is...   Sep 14, 2009 - 10:09 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (Batman722 @ Sep 14, 2009 - 11...   Sep 15, 2009 - 8:45 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 15, 2009 - 8:45 ...   Sep 15, 2009 - 10:05 PM
- - njccmd2002   cut the b-pipe at the level of 17410 or cut after ...   Sep 14, 2009 - 10:59 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 14, 2009 - 10...   Sep 15, 2009 - 8:37 AM
- - njccmd2002   i have also been lookng at aftermarket headers and...   Sep 14, 2009 - 11:03 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   its aftermarket header, single not plural. i was t...   Sep 15, 2009 - 12:15 AM
- - pasqual   I did beams swap to celica st202 , 2 years ago ...   Sep 15, 2009 - 12:37 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (pasqual @ Sep 15, 2009 - 12:3...   Sep 15, 2009 - 12:57 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (pasqual @ Sep 15, 2009 - 1:37...   Sep 15, 2009 - 4:24 PM
- - erahman85   QUOTE (pasqual @ Sep 15, 2009 - 12:3...   Sep 15, 2009 - 9:02 PM
- - 2bcelica   It does have a MAF, but for the beams its refered ...   Sep 15, 2009 - 9:05 PM
|- - erahman85   QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 15, 2009 - 9:0...   Sep 15, 2009 - 9:25 PM
|- - 2bcelica   QUOTE (erahman85 @ Sep 16, 2009 - 2...   Sep 15, 2009 - 10:08 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 15, 2009 - 11...   Sep 15, 2009 - 10:16 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   rusty is fixing up the site a bit. he is going to ...   Sep 16, 2009 - 10:26 AM
- - 2bcelica   OK, - confirmed - the other MAF from 99+ toyota...   Sep 16, 2009 - 11:12 AM
- - erahman85   QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 16, 2009 - 12...   Sep 16, 2009 - 7:39 PM
|- - 2bcelica   QUOTE (erahman85 @ Sep 17, 2009 - 12...   Sep 16, 2009 - 8:49 PM
- - erahman85   QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 16, 2009 - 8:4...   Sep 16, 2009 - 9:14 PM
- - 2bcelica   Check engine light   Sep 16, 2009 - 9:22 PM
- - Batman722   is the one you got the same part # as the beams on...   Sep 16, 2009 - 10:00 PM
|- - 2bcelica   QUOTE (Batman722 @ Sep 17, 2009 - 4...   Sep 16, 2009 - 11:48 PM
- - turnip   Look what arrived today. Damn ebay intake is be...   Sep 17, 2009 - 1:48 PM
- - 95st-celica   awesome thread so far...lots of good info...i woul...   Sep 17, 2009 - 2:55 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Sep 17, 2009 ...   Sep 17, 2009 - 4:11 PM
- - njccmd2002   sweet, how many miles on the cluster.....   Sep 17, 2009 - 9:47 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 17, 2009 - 9...   Sep 18, 2009 - 8:31 AM
- - njccmd2002   hey, whats the status on the start issue? do you ...   Sep 19, 2009 - 10:13 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 19, 2009 - 11...   Sep 20, 2009 - 9:11 AM
|- - trdproven   QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 21, 2009 - 12:11...   Sep 20, 2009 - 6:41 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   you dont need the cluster gauge, all you need is t...   Sep 20, 2009 - 2:47 PM
- - Rusty   QUOTE you dont need the cluster gauge, all you nee...   Sep 21, 2009 - 12:31 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   uhh from what 2bcelica said, you do not need 3sge ...   Sep 21, 2009 - 12:42 AM
- - njccmd2002   so any 7 redline 3sge will work?   Sep 21, 2009 - 11:28 PM
- - Rusty   umm hes stll using the beams rpm guage (like I sai...   Sep 22, 2009 - 12:42 AM
- - pasqual   You dont need celica beams cluster or rpm guge ....   Sep 22, 2009 - 9:49 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 21, 2009 - 11...   Sep 22, 2009 - 10:37 AM
- - njccmd2002   well i just asked in mr2/beams 1. Beams tacho is...   Sep 22, 2009 - 1:02 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 22, 2009 - 2...   Sep 23, 2009 - 12:53 AM
- - 2bcelica   you do need the beams 9k rpm tach swapped into the...   Sep 22, 2009 - 1:06 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ah really dayum that sucks. Well thats not my conc...   Sep 22, 2009 - 7:16 PM
- - 2bcelica   yeah - the led bulb i got from superbrightleds.com...   Sep 22, 2009 - 9:50 PM
- - turnip   Intake arrived today. Its pretty chinsy but it ...   Sep 22, 2009 - 9:57 PM
|- - 2bcelica   QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 23, 2009 - 2:57 ...   Sep 22, 2009 - 10:04 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 22, 2009 - 9:57 ...   Sep 23, 2009 - 4:17 AM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 23, 2009 - 5...   Sep 23, 2009 - 7:23 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   alright thanks. Dont really understand how to do t...   Sep 23, 2009 - 1:46 AM
- - Rusty   thanks batman that was the point I was trying to m...   Sep 23, 2009 - 2:12 AM
- - njccmd2002   been looking at the wiring, so.. why do we need o...   Sep 23, 2009 - 4:23 AM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 23, 2009 - 5...   Sep 23, 2009 - 7:17 AM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (Batman722 @ Sep 23, 2009 - 7...   Sep 23, 2009 - 7:58 AM
- - turnip   Batman we appreciate all the help.   Sep 23, 2009 - 8:15 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   get the lightweight c-one pulley from nengun.   Sep 23, 2009 - 10:09 AM
- - 99GT   Batman kicks ass.   Sep 23, 2009 - 10:14 AM
- - pasqual   turnip can You put point by point problems you ne...   Sep 23, 2009 - 12:00 PM
- - turnip   QUOTE (pasqual @ Sep 23, 2009 - 12:0...   Sep 23, 2009 - 12:35 PM
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