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post Sep 9, 2009 - 10:50 AM
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Need your help. 3sgte, I have decided against this. This is not a useless post, swap is a coming!! but dont know what!!



Please Disregard swap cost, dont tell me why it cant be done, or too difficult, i dont care.

If i had 2 celicas, identical same color and everything. One is a V6 and the other one is beams, what do you want. This is not a discussion about cost, or how hard it is to swap.

I have seen HP is about the same, however there are torque differences. What does that entail?

V6 has a little more torque. I read some posts, but i know is what keeps the engine going, like momentum, but in practicality, what is it? , what does that mean to me?

Yes, I dont want hassle with turbo, at least for now, the v6 can be supercharged.

My goal is to push at least 190 hp, thats for now.

I just cant decide, im torn, i need opinions. Beams is gorgeous, but a V6 is magnificent.

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post Sep 10, 2009 - 2:15 AM
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ok....let me in.....

lol....

IMO opinion....

beams.. wow cool.... seriously.... but thats all..... unless you want to go full house N/A build....

V6...... has heaps of parts available..... HEAPS... cause there are so many on the road....and therefore parts are made and are cheap.....supply V demand...

V6 with e153 gearbox will be just as easy if not easier to install then a beams..... not much difference....
you still gotta wire it up to ecu and get other stuff like exhaust and power steering stuff done.......

i see the V6 conversion is getting so popular lately and there is a world of choices of engines to put in....
2vzfe, 3vzfe, 1mzfe, 3mzfe. all great motors and have very little difference besides the way they are built, eg all alloy....

the beauty of the 1-3mzfe's is that they have VVTI like the 7th gen celica and the beams 3sge.... so not only do you get the kick from the torque but you get the high ends revs from the cams.........best option IMO.....

i went with the 3vzfe cause i want to boost soon and the 3vzfe being cast steel block, rods, crank, can handle upto 10psi of boost before you need to start messing with internals......

base model 3vzfe's have 180-190 hp..... later models have 200hp..(like mine)......mz series motors have much the same......

free up the intake with a decent filter and add a well made exhaust y-pipe merge and you gain more power, then aftermarket ecu and even more power is un-tamed.....so for sheer potential and the coolest celica around...lol.....

IN MY experience V6 is the only option........for me at least anyhow........




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Posts in this topic
- njccmd2002   Beams Red top Vs *MZ-FE   Sep 9, 2009 - 10:50 AM
- - playr158   v6...better parts availability and cheaper to main...   Sep 9, 2009 - 10:57 AM
- - 95CelicaST   V6 might be a bit harder to maintain due to the la...   Sep 9, 2009 - 11:05 AM
- - njccmd2002   thats what i have tought, but the beams looks Cool...   Sep 9, 2009 - 11:19 AM
- - Euphoria   v6 is going to use more fuel when its pushed than ...   Sep 9, 2009 - 11:53 AM
- - njccmd2002   yeah i read the wiki, and was like, WT? too much t...   Sep 9, 2009 - 2:09 PM
- - Culpable04   depending on which v6 engine you go with, your car...   Sep 9, 2009 - 2:23 PM
- - njccmd2002   Yeah, im just scared of the parts, and fact that i...   Sep 9, 2009 - 3:14 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   well njccmd2002. ya it depends what v6 you get lik...   Sep 9, 2009 - 4:36 PM
- - njccmd2002   I was reading that the manual was already availabl...   Sep 9, 2009 - 4:54 PM
- - blu94gt   If you do a 1mzfe you have a few advantages. 1 wo...   Sep 9, 2009 - 5:19 PM
- - njccmd2002   so the 5s Tranny from a v6 solara wont fit on the ...   Sep 9, 2009 - 5:49 PM
- - azian_advanced   For daily driving, I'd go with the V6. For we...   Sep 9, 2009 - 8:37 PM
- - Bitter   V6, torque is awesomw, torque from a standstill is...   Sep 9, 2009 - 8:52 PM
- - 808celica   my v6 *mz-fe in my sienna van get better mpg that ...   Sep 9, 2009 - 10:29 PM
- - Superaison   Would a v6 AWD celica be quick? Why dont people pu...   Sep 10, 2009 - 12:17 AM
|- - urbandork   QUOTE (Superaison @ Sep 9, 2009 - 10...   Sep 10, 2009 - 12:25 AM
- - SwissFerdi   3S-GTE ≠ V6.   Sep 10, 2009 - 12:42 AM
- - fibrewizard   ok....let me in..... lol.... IMO opinion.... be...   Sep 10, 2009 - 2:15 AM
- - fibrewizard   oh and as for AWD V6... i know a lad that is curr...   Sep 10, 2009 - 2:19 AM
- - Rusty   QUOTE 3sge, I have decided against this I guess yo...   Sep 10, 2009 - 3:16 AM
- - Cavegod   we have a V6 GT4 in the uk, uses a Rav4 transfer b...   Sep 10, 2009 - 7:27 AM
|- - fibrewizard   QUOTE (Cavegod @ Sep 10, 2009 - 8:27...   Sep 10, 2009 - 8:23 AM
- - njccmd2002   made a decision... few months i will have more d...   Sep 10, 2009 - 3:49 PM
- - K-ESD   Well obviously I'm going to say go for a V6, t...   Sep 13, 2009 - 7:51 AM
|- - Edophus   being a beams man myself i'll stick up for the...   Sep 13, 2009 - 1:22 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   very nice reply edophus. you always know what to s...   Sep 13, 2009 - 7:57 PM
- - K-ESD   I agree with you for the most part Edophus, very w...   Sep 13, 2009 - 9:30 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Where does the 2GRFE come from?   Sep 13, 2009 - 9:37 PM
|- - Jamchell   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Sep 13, 2009 - 9...   Sep 13, 2009 - 10:14 PM
- - njccmd2002   Well this has been a very interesting thread, it s...   Sep 13, 2009 - 11:03 PM
- - SlvrCelica09   good luck   Sep 13, 2009 - 11:14 PM
- - RavenAegis45   well everyones adding there 2 cents so i'll ju...   Sep 14, 2009 - 12:18 AM
|- - Edophus   thanks chaps i just try and remain balanced!, ...   Sep 14, 2009 - 2:58 AM
- - K-ESD   for more on the 2GRFE visit this link http://www....   Sep 14, 2009 - 6:29 AM
- - Edophus   QUOTE (K-ESD @ Sep 14, 2009 - 7...   Sep 14, 2009 - 6:58 AM


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