Beams Red top Vs *MZ-FE, Nope, no 3sgte please. Options

[njccmd2002]

Need your help. 3sgte, I have decided against this. This is not a useless post, swap is a coming!! but dont know what!!



Please Disregard swap cost, dont tell me why it cant be done, or too difficult, i dont care.

If i had 2 celicas, identical same color and everything. One is a V6 and the other one is beams, what do you want. This is not a discussion about cost, or how hard it is to swap.

I have seen HP is about the same, however there are torque differences. What does that entail?

V6 has a little more torque. I read some posts, but i know is what keeps the engine going, like momentum, but in practicality, what is it? , what does that mean to me?

Yes, I dont want hassle with turbo, at least for now, the v6 can be supercharged.

My goal is to push at least 190 hp, thats for now.

I just cant decide, im torn, i need opinions. Beams is gorgeous, but a V6 is magnificent.

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 10, 2009 - 8:34 AM

[K-ESD]

I agree with you for the most part Edophus, very well said.

However, we have the gearbox that matches the engine. The E-153 is perfect for a V6, wide enough to make good use of the torque curve. It also comes with the Solara V6 with a slightly wider final gear.
I still think the V6 has it's place in the racing world, maybe not endurance but enthusiast track racing for sure. A lot of Mr2 guys are ditching their NA and turbo 4 bangers for V6s for racing purposes.

also keep in mind there are 5 V6 options, the 1MZ is only of one them and far from the best. I would only get a 1MZ at a dirt cheap price, then slap on a TRD SC.
a non-vvti 1MZ would be in par with the 3SGE power wise but look at the 1MZ vvti (220), 5VZ (201) and 3MZ (230), all of them over 200HP.

now lets throw the 2GRFE into the mix

276WHP bone stock reliable and still gets 30MPG, anyone want that?
This thing would rival even a slightly built 3SGTE

The V6s has many advantages in racing just like the 3SGE has it's advantages but, like you said, what's best is all about what the person wants to do with the car.


now to steer away from my V6 biasing....
I'm bored of the 3MZFE and moving into a higher power goal (300HP+). I'm picking up a 96 MR2 turbo next weekend. This will be my next project car, I guess hanging around in the MR2 boards influenced me enough to get one. The 2GRFE would have been too much for a FWD platform, I needed a change and want to experience a turbo car. I am considering stuffing a 2GRFTE (FTE !!) in the MR2 at some point in the future if it's feasible and financially possible for me.