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> Beams Red top Vs *MZ-FE, Nope, no 3sgte please.
post Sep 9, 2009 - 10:50 AM
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Need your help. 3sgte, I have decided against this. This is not a useless post, swap is a coming!! but dont know what!!



Please Disregard swap cost, dont tell me why it cant be done, or too difficult, i dont care.

If i had 2 celicas, identical same color and everything. One is a V6 and the other one is beams, what do you want. This is not a discussion about cost, or how hard it is to swap.

I have seen HP is about the same, however there are torque differences. What does that entail?

V6 has a little more torque. I read some posts, but i know is what keeps the engine going, like momentum, but in practicality, what is it? , what does that mean to me?

Yes, I dont want hassle with turbo, at least for now, the v6 can be supercharged.

My goal is to push at least 190 hp, thats for now.

I just cant decide, im torn, i need opinions. Beams is gorgeous, but a V6 is magnificent.

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post Sep 13, 2009 - 9:37 PM
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Where does the 2GRFE come from?


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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Sep 13, 2009 - 9:37 PM) *
Where does the 2GRFE come from?


The 2GR-FE is a 3.5 L (3456 cc) version. Bore remains at 94 mm but stroke is reduced to 83 mm. Reported output varies depending on the vehicle application, but is approximately 268 hp (200 kW) at 6200 rpm with 248 lb·ft (336 N·m) of torque at 4700 rpm on 87 octane (R+M/2). This version features Toyota's Dual VVT-i, variable valve timing on both the intake and exhaust cams. Valves are driven by roller-follower rocker arms with low friction roller bearings, and a unique, concave cam lobe design to increase valve lift over the traditional shimless lifter type system of the 1GR-FE. This increases overall cylinder head height to accommodate the slightly taller roller rocker system. Moreover, the cylinder head is segmented into 3 parts: valve cover, camshaft sub-assembly housing, and cylinder head sub-assembly. As such, this valvetrain is used across all other GR engines with Dual VVT-i. Its service weight is 163kg.
Applications:
2005 Toyota Avalon (GSX30)
2006 Toyota Aurion (GSV40)
2007 TRD Aurion (Eaton Twin-Vortices TRD supercharger)
2006 Toyota RAV4 (GSA33/38)
2006 Toyota Estima (GSR50/55)
2006 Toyota Previa (GSR50)
2006 Toyota Tarago (GSR50)
2007 Toyota Camry (GSV40)
2007 Toyota Sienna (GSL20/23/25)
2007 Lexus ES 350 (GSV40)
2007 Lexus RX 350 (GSU30/35)
2007 Toyota Harrier (GSU30/31/35/36)
2007 Toyota Vanguard (GSA33)
2009 Lexus RX 350 (GGL10/15/16)
2007 Toyota Kluger (GSU40/45)
2007 Toyota Blade (GRE156)
2007 Toyota Mark X Zio (GGA10)
2008 Toyota Alphard (GGH20/25)
2008 Toyota Vellfire (GGH20/25)
2008 Toyota Highlander (GSU40/45)
2009 Toyota Venza (GGV10/15)
2009 Lotus Evora (280ps & 350Nm using Lotus engine management, Sport Pack package redline increased to 7000rpm)

Wikipedia is your friend!

Might be kind of steep in price though

Posts in this topic
- njccmd2002   Beams Red top Vs *MZ-FE   Sep 9, 2009 - 10:50 AM
- - playr158   v6...better parts availability and cheaper to main...   Sep 9, 2009 - 10:57 AM
- - 95CelicaST   V6 might be a bit harder to maintain due to the la...   Sep 9, 2009 - 11:05 AM
- - njccmd2002   thats what i have tought, but the beams looks Cool...   Sep 9, 2009 - 11:19 AM
- - Euphoria   v6 is going to use more fuel when its pushed than ...   Sep 9, 2009 - 11:53 AM
- - njccmd2002   yeah i read the wiki, and was like, WT? too much t...   Sep 9, 2009 - 2:09 PM
- - Culpable04   depending on which v6 engine you go with, your car...   Sep 9, 2009 - 2:23 PM
- - njccmd2002   Yeah, im just scared of the parts, and fact that i...   Sep 9, 2009 - 3:14 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   well njccmd2002. ya it depends what v6 you get lik...   Sep 9, 2009 - 4:36 PM
- - njccmd2002   I was reading that the manual was already availabl...   Sep 9, 2009 - 4:54 PM
- - blu94gt   If you do a 1mzfe you have a few advantages. 1 wo...   Sep 9, 2009 - 5:19 PM
- - njccmd2002   so the 5s Tranny from a v6 solara wont fit on the ...   Sep 9, 2009 - 5:49 PM
- - azian_advanced   For daily driving, I'd go with the V6. For we...   Sep 9, 2009 - 8:37 PM
- - Bitter   V6, torque is awesomw, torque from a standstill is...   Sep 9, 2009 - 8:52 PM
- - 808celica   my v6 *mz-fe in my sienna van get better mpg that ...   Sep 9, 2009 - 10:29 PM
- - Superaison   Would a v6 AWD celica be quick? Why dont people pu...   Sep 10, 2009 - 12:17 AM
|- - urbandork   QUOTE (Superaison @ Sep 9, 2009 - 10...   Sep 10, 2009 - 12:25 AM
- - SwissFerdi   3S-GTE ≠ V6.   Sep 10, 2009 - 12:42 AM
- - fibrewizard   ok....let me in..... lol.... IMO opinion.... be...   Sep 10, 2009 - 2:15 AM
- - fibrewizard   oh and as for AWD V6... i know a lad that is curr...   Sep 10, 2009 - 2:19 AM
- - Rusty   QUOTE 3sge, I have decided against this I guess yo...   Sep 10, 2009 - 3:16 AM
- - Cavegod   we have a V6 GT4 in the uk, uses a Rav4 transfer b...   Sep 10, 2009 - 7:27 AM
|- - fibrewizard   QUOTE (Cavegod @ Sep 10, 2009 - 8:27...   Sep 10, 2009 - 8:23 AM
- - njccmd2002   made a decision... few months i will have more d...   Sep 10, 2009 - 3:49 PM
- - K-ESD   Well obviously I'm going to say go for a V6, t...   Sep 13, 2009 - 7:51 AM
|- - Edophus   being a beams man myself i'll stick up for the...   Sep 13, 2009 - 1:22 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   very nice reply edophus. you always know what to s...   Sep 13, 2009 - 7:57 PM
- - K-ESD   I agree with you for the most part Edophus, very w...   Sep 13, 2009 - 9:30 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Where does the 2GRFE come from?   Sep 13, 2009 - 9:37 PM
|- - Jamchell   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Sep 13, 2009 - 9...   Sep 13, 2009 - 10:14 PM
- - njccmd2002   Well this has been a very interesting thread, it s...   Sep 13, 2009 - 11:03 PM
- - SlvrCelica09   good luck   Sep 13, 2009 - 11:14 PM
- - RavenAegis45   well everyones adding there 2 cents so i'll ju...   Sep 14, 2009 - 12:18 AM
|- - Edophus   thanks chaps i just try and remain balanced!, ...   Sep 14, 2009 - 2:58 AM
- - K-ESD   for more on the 2GRFE visit this link http://www....   Sep 14, 2009 - 6:29 AM
- - Edophus   QUOTE (K-ESD @ Sep 14, 2009 - 7...   Sep 14, 2009 - 6:58 AM


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