 Swap: 3sge Beams into 94GT-RIP=DEAD |
 Aug 26, 2009 - 9:46 AM
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         Good Day All. I have some questions that i did not get from trolling and searchings. I hope that the some of the swap gurus can chime in. Project: Swap 6gen JDM 3SGE Beams into 1994 USDM GT. Goals: 200whp and reliability Use: Race - Car will be completely gutted including all glass and prepped for racing. Current setup is a stock 5SFE with 60k miles. Transplanting 3SGE Beams and LSD S54 tranny. Yet to be procured. I have few I am looking at with money in hand. Drivetrain - The 5SFE has an S54 on it and I assume that the axles and clutch will interchange? Question#1 - Did any of the USDM Celicas with the S54 have stock LSD? Question#2 - Flywheel and clutch upgrade? What are my options? Electrical - Since its a same Gen Celica did the harnesses drastically change over the lifecycle of the 6th Gen? Pre Post OdbII? Question#1 - Can someone confirm that the stock USDM harness will plug and play with the ECU and Beams? With exception to wires being lenghted to accomodate RHD vs LHD. Question#2 - If my assumptions for one is complete off please guide me in the correct direction. Question#3 - Dash Cluster - Racing I really do not care about speed as much as temps and RPM. I do not want to buy an JDM dash cluster is there a work around to make the stock one work? Otherwise will likely go the DEFI Link route. Question#4 ODBII vs ODB1 The 94 is ODB1. The Beams will be ODBII Has anyone got this to work on a pre 96 vehicle? I only ask as ODB is a good way to check sensor failure vs the plug and play method. Tuning Goal of 200whp with Intake, Exhaust upgrade, no cat, no P/S, no A/C, Flywheel upgrade, ecu, ect. Questions1 - Does anyone have experience with any of the JDM ECUs such as Mines, Toms, I.Mec, Blitz? Question#2 - Headers any experience with C-One, Apexi, HKS, Fujitsubo? Question#3 - Crank/Balancer Pulley.. Is there one? Thanks in advance. This post has been edited by turnip: Oct 7, 2011 - 8:57 AM |
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Sep 14, 2009 - 12:52 AM
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whoa is that compression right? 3sge (3gen) is about +190psi
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Sep 14, 2009 - 9:29 AM
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Sep 14, 2009 - 12:52 AM)  whoa is that compression right? 3sge (3gen) is about +190psi From mr2 beams forum. Compression pressure: Reference level 1.37Mpa converted to psi is 198.7 Limit 1.08Mpa converted to psi is 146.4 This makes sense because the non beams 3sge is 10.5:1 and the beams is 11.0:1 |
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Sep 15, 2009 - 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 15, 2009 - 2:29 AM) QUOTE (Rusty @ Sep 14, 2009 - 12:52 AM) whoa is that compression right? 3sge (3gen) is about +190psi From mr2 beams forum. Compression pressure: Reference level 1.37Mpa converted to psi is 198.7 Limit 1.08Mpa converted to psi is 146.4 This makes sense because the non beams 3sge is 10.5:1 and the beams is 11.0:1 oh right got you now, that makes more sense, 3sge 3gen is 10.3:1 btw I'd love the extra .2 QUOTE ([b) BonzaiCelica[/b]]the redtop has a Mass Air Flow Meter. so its called a MAF sensor correct???? yup QUOTE ([b) njccmd2002[/b]]i have also been lookng at aftermarket headers and there is none... the toyota standard extrators flow quite well already, so any increase would be small, match porting, port and polish will help. -------------------- |
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turnip Swap: 3sge Beams into 94GT-RIP=DEAD Aug 26, 2009 - 9:46 AM
njccmd2002 http://www.mr2.com/forums/beams/
youll find more ... Aug 26, 2009 - 11:59 AM
turnip QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Aug 26, 2009 - 12... Aug 26, 2009 - 3:39 PM
turnip QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Aug 26, 2009 - 3... Aug 26, 2009 - 4:38 PM BonzaiCelica first off. Welcome to the site. 6gc.net is the bes... Aug 26, 2009 - 2:23 PM Batman722 QUOTE (turnip @ Aug 26, 2009 - 10:46... Aug 26, 2009 - 6:15 PM njccmd2002 QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 26, 2009 - 6... Aug 26, 2009 - 6:30 PM turnip Appreciate all the help Batman. Here is the link... Aug 26, 2009 - 8:08 PM njccmd2002 where are you.. Aug 26, 2009 - 8:15 PM turnip QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Aug 26, 2009 - 9... Aug 27, 2009 - 10:39 AM BonzaiCelica uh hold on a sec Batman. whats that your saying ab... Aug 27, 2009 - 1:30 AM Batman722 QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Aug 27, 2009 - 2... Aug 30, 2009 - 4:26 PM trdproven QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 31, 2009 - 7... Aug 31, 2009 - 9:51 AM presure2 QUOTE (trdproven @ Aug 31, 2009 - 9... Sep 2, 2009 - 5:14 PM turnip And it begins.
Picked Up Today
Optimistic to... Aug 29, 2009 - 9:38 PM BonzaiCelica oh ok thanks. Aug 30, 2009 - 5:28 PM njccmd2002 Congratulations, i recognize that beams, i think, ... Aug 30, 2009 - 6:01 PM turnip QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Aug 30, 2009 - 6... Aug 30, 2009 - 7:35 PM Outsider Can I assume that all of those cut wires come from... Aug 30, 2009 - 7:56 PM turnip Those cut wire represent the beams harness lead th... Aug 31, 2009 - 9:16 AM njccmd2002 So any 3 s will do, fidanza aluminum for the 3sgte... Aug 31, 2009 - 10:23 AM BonzaiCelica QUOTE (trdproven @ Aug 31, 2009 - 10... Aug 31, 2009 - 4:39 PM turnip Engine Coming out today. Sure would like to pul... Sep 2, 2009 - 10:10 AM Batman722 QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 2, 2009 - 11:10 ... Sep 2, 2009 - 5:04 PM turnip Its out. Down through the bottom it came. Its ... Sep 2, 2009 - 7:27 PM Smaay yeah axles are a PITA getting out. one reason i lo... Sep 6, 2009 - 4:19 PM turnip Engine in and hope to have it running this week. ... Sep 7, 2009 - 8:27 PM Rusty wow you dont muck around, good to see more 3s-ge ... Sep 8, 2009 - 1:02 AM turnip After a of crazy work week, I finally got a chance... Sep 12, 2009 - 7:40 PM Batman722 It's not just pins 4 and 17 on EA1, but interi... Sep 13, 2009 - 12:08 AM turnip First off. Thank you. I did look over the harne... Sep 13, 2009 - 8:44 AM Batman722 sorry if I came off like a jerk, it was late at ni... Sep 13, 2009 - 9:04 AM turnip Its a manual.
This celica is being gutted. C... Sep 13, 2009 - 9:13 AM Batman722 the reason I ask if it was an auto is the pink wir... Sep 13, 2009 - 10:54 AM turnip I will get some up today. It turns over and sou... Sep 13, 2009 - 11:20 AM erahman85 does the stock 5sfe MAF sensor work with the 3sgem... Sep 14, 2009 - 4:46 PM presure2 QUOTE (erahman85 @ Sep 14, 2009 - 4... Sep 15, 2009 - 5:08 AM turnip Anyone have a beams B-pipe laying around the want ... Sep 14, 2009 - 8:11 PM njccmd2002 what is the b pipe? the second part of the exhaus... Sep 14, 2009 - 8:36 PM turnip QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 14, 2009 - 8... Sep 14, 2009 - 8:59 PM Batman722 the issue is the b pipe and rest of the exhaust is... Sep 14, 2009 - 10:09 PM turnip QUOTE (Batman722 @ Sep 14, 2009 - 11... Sep 15, 2009 - 8:45 PM njccmd2002 QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 15, 2009 - 8:45 ... Sep 15, 2009 - 10:05 PM njccmd2002 cut the b-pipe at the level of 17410 or cut after ... Sep 14, 2009 - 10:59 PM turnip QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 14, 2009 - 10... Sep 15, 2009 - 8:37 AM njccmd2002 i have also been lookng at aftermarket headers and... Sep 14, 2009 - 11:03 PM BonzaiCelica its aftermarket header, single not plural. i was t... Sep 15, 2009 - 12:15 AM pasqual I did beams swap to celica st202 , 2 years ago ... Sep 15, 2009 - 12:37 PM njccmd2002 QUOTE (pasqual @ Sep 15, 2009 - 12:3... Sep 15, 2009 - 12:57 PM turnip QUOTE (pasqual @ Sep 15, 2009 - 1:37... Sep 15, 2009 - 4:24 PM erahman85 QUOTE (pasqual @ Sep 15, 2009 - 12:3... Sep 15, 2009 - 9:02 PM 2bcelica It does have a MAF, but for the beams its refered ... Sep 15, 2009 - 9:05 PM erahman85 QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 15, 2009 - 9:0... Sep 15, 2009 - 9:25 PM 2bcelica QUOTE (erahman85 @ Sep 16, 2009 - 2... Sep 15, 2009 - 10:08 PM turnip QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 15, 2009 - 11... Sep 15, 2009 - 10:16 PM BonzaiCelica rusty is fixing up the site a bit. he is going to ... Sep 16, 2009 - 10:26 AM 2bcelica OK, - confirmed - the other MAF from 99+ toyota... Sep 16, 2009 - 11:12 AM erahman85 QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 16, 2009 - 12... Sep 16, 2009 - 7:39 PM 2bcelica QUOTE (erahman85 @ Sep 17, 2009 - 12... Sep 16, 2009 - 8:49 PM erahman85 QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 16, 2009 - 8:4... Sep 16, 2009 - 9:14 PM 2bcelica Check engine light Sep 16, 2009 - 9:22 PM Batman722 is the one you got the same part # as the beams on... Sep 16, 2009 - 10:00 PM 2bcelica QUOTE (Batman722 @ Sep 17, 2009 - 4... Sep 16, 2009 - 11:48 PM turnip Look what arrived today.
Damn ebay intake is be... Sep 17, 2009 - 1:48 PM 95st-celica awesome thread so far...lots of good info...i woul... Sep 17, 2009 - 2:55 PM turnip QUOTE (95st-celica @ Sep 17, 2009 ... Sep 17, 2009 - 4:11 PM njccmd2002 sweet, how many miles on the cluster..... Sep 17, 2009 - 9:47 PM turnip QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 17, 2009 - 9... Sep 18, 2009 - 8:31 AM njccmd2002 hey, whats the status on the start issue?
do you ... Sep 19, 2009 - 10:13 PM turnip QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 19, 2009 - 11... Sep 20, 2009 - 9:11 AM trdproven QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 21, 2009 - 12:11... Sep 20, 2009 - 6:41 PM BonzaiCelica you dont need the cluster gauge, all you need is t... Sep 20, 2009 - 2:47 PM Rusty QUOTE you dont need the cluster gauge, all you nee... Sep 21, 2009 - 12:31 AM BonzaiCelica uhh from what 2bcelica said, you do not need 3sge ... Sep 21, 2009 - 12:42 AM njccmd2002 so any 7 redline 3sge will work? Sep 21, 2009 - 11:28 PM Rusty umm hes stll using the beams rpm guage (like I sai... Sep 22, 2009 - 12:42 AM pasqual You dont need celica beams cluster or rpm guge .... Sep 22, 2009 - 9:49 AM BonzaiCelica QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 21, 2009 - 11... Sep 22, 2009 - 10:37 AM njccmd2002 well i just asked in mr2/beams
1. Beams tacho is... Sep 22, 2009 - 1:02 PM Batman722 QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 22, 2009 - 2... Sep 23, 2009 - 12:53 AM 2bcelica you do need the beams 9k rpm tach swapped into the... Sep 22, 2009 - 1:06 PM BonzaiCelica ah really dayum that sucks. Well thats not my conc... Sep 22, 2009 - 7:16 PM 2bcelica yeah - the led bulb i got from superbrightleds.com... Sep 22, 2009 - 9:50 PM turnip Intake arrived today. Its pretty chinsy but it ... Sep 22, 2009 - 9:57 PM 2bcelica QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 23, 2009 - 2:57 ... Sep 22, 2009 - 10:04 PM njccmd2002 QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 22, 2009 - 9:57 ... Sep 23, 2009 - 4:17 AM turnip QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 23, 2009 - 5... Sep 23, 2009 - 7:23 AM BonzaiCelica alright thanks. Dont really understand how to do t... Sep 23, 2009 - 1:46 AM Rusty thanks batman that was the point I was trying to m... Sep 23, 2009 - 2:12 AM njccmd2002 been looking at the wiring, so..
why do we need o... Sep 23, 2009 - 4:23 AM Batman722 QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 23, 2009 - 5... Sep 23, 2009 - 7:17 AM njccmd2002 QUOTE (Batman722 @ Sep 23, 2009 - 7... Sep 23, 2009 - 7:58 AM turnip Batman we appreciate all the help. Sep 23, 2009 - 8:15 AM BonzaiCelica get the lightweight c-one pulley from nengun. Sep 23, 2009 - 10:09 AM 99GT Batman kicks ass. Sep 23, 2009 - 10:14 AM pasqual turnip can You put point by point problems you ne... Sep 23, 2009 - 12:00 PM turnip QUOTE (pasqual @ Sep 23, 2009 - 12:0... Sep 23, 2009 - 12:35 PM |
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