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post Oct 12, 2009 - 9:18 PM
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So I have a very solid block with 182K on it. The head was fully rebuilt several months ago. My car runs great, doesn't burn oil, and has great oil pressure. I was wondering...how much WOT driving can I get away with? Not the floor it from a dead stop either wot. I usually take off at an average pace and then WOT it from 2nd through 4th. Is this going to kill my motor quickly?
 
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post Oct 21, 2009 - 6:43 PM
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Don't floor a cold engine - It's basic science, things shrink when they're cold and expand when they're hot, if your engine shrinks around the piston and piston rings then obviously there is increased wear as its a whole lot tighter (probably not far off from seizing and you notice how the engine feels heavy before it warms up), this in combination with oil not being at operating temperature will provide less lubrication, hence oil has 2 parts to the viscosity rating - one at cold one at operating temp.

The rev limiter - It's made up of many factors, For one theres no point revving past the redline with stock cams, Look at a dyno curve with stock cams and aftermarket cams and you'll see why -- it's like revving down, power is at the top of the curve, revving past the curve is essentially decelerating. Secondly in order to keep producing power in the high revs the engine needs to be high compression (the FE engine is not.) Third and most importantly since there is no point in revving past the redline (and especially with an FE engine) the engine internals are not designed to cope with the extra stress -- as mentioned balancing and all that crap, bore and stroke ratio, total amount of stroke, etc. These factors come into play well before any fueling issue should arise unless the fuel filter is clogged or something.


There is no reason why you can't floor your engine from 0 to the redline if you look after it, nomatter what it's age but hard driving on a cold engine is a sure fire way to f*ck it!


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1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR
GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC
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Posts in this topic
- 6G96GT   WOT at 182K   Oct 12, 2009 - 9:18 PM
- - lagos   The harder you drive it, the more wear you put on ...   Oct 12, 2009 - 9:24 PM
- - Euphoria   Just do regular oil changes, aslong as you don...   Oct 13, 2009 - 9:52 PM
- - nics   i do it at least once a week before a gas fill-up ...   Oct 13, 2009 - 9:58 PM
- - 6G96GT   Good to know, I had my head rebuilt this past marc...   Oct 14, 2009 - 7:08 PM
- - nics   well just dont over rev and WOT when the engine is...   Oct 15, 2009 - 2:45 PM
|- - 6G96GT   QUOTE (nics @ Oct 15, 2009 - 3:45 PM...   Oct 15, 2009 - 7:14 PM
|- - razor7   QUOTE (nics @ Oct 15, 2009 - 12:45 P...   Oct 15, 2009 - 10:47 PM
|- - nics   QUOTE (razor7 @ Oct 15, 2009 - 8:47 ...   Oct 16, 2009 - 1:33 AM
|- - razor7   QUOTE (nics @ Oct 15, 2009 - 11:33 P...   Oct 16, 2009 - 1:55 AM
- - nics   its in the owners manual of course you dont wa...   Oct 15, 2009 - 7:58 PM
|- - 6G96GT   QUOTE (nics @ Oct 15, 2009 - 8:58 PM...   Oct 15, 2009 - 10:10 PM
- - erahman85   what the heck is WOT lol   Oct 15, 2009 - 9:36 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Wide open throttle.   Oct 15, 2009 - 9:42 PM
- - nics   QUOTE (thedevilmaycrie @ Sep 4, 2003 - 4...   Oct 16, 2009 - 1:58 AM
|- - razor7   QUOTE (nics @ Oct 15, 2009 - 11:58 P...   Oct 16, 2009 - 8:29 PM
- - nics   being starved on gas?? idk about that. here's...   Oct 18, 2009 - 7:11 PM
|- - razor7   QUOTE (nics @ Oct 18, 2009 - 5:11 PM...   Oct 19, 2009 - 3:51 AM
- - nics   woah thats crazy 2k rpms over!!!   Oct 19, 2009 - 10:35 AM
- - 6G96GT   So in theory, if I had my block rebuilt and then h...   Oct 19, 2009 - 2:18 PM
- - nics   you always could, but dont do it!   Oct 19, 2009 - 3:01 PM
- - razor7   You would have to have ALL internals set up for hi...   Oct 19, 2009 - 4:28 PM
- - 6G96GT   I have a rather large amount of money available, I...   Oct 19, 2009 - 4:47 PM
- - nics   how % of your driving time your planning to drive ...   Oct 19, 2009 - 6:17 PM
- - 6G96GT   Whenever I get on the highway. Regular driving, I...   Oct 19, 2009 - 9:19 PM
|- - razor7   QUOTE (6G96GT @ Oct 19, 2009 - 7:19 ...   Oct 19, 2009 - 9:36 PM
|- - 6G96GT   Forget that then. I just want to wot it maybe up t...   Oct 20, 2009 - 2:15 PM
- - nics   yes, WOT < redline + in operating temp. should ...   Oct 20, 2009 - 3:02 PM
- - 6G96GT   Nics, thanks for all your help! Yeah, it sound...   Oct 20, 2009 - 4:27 PM
- - nics   yep, i love it uphill when rpm go at 5k and yeah g...   Oct 20, 2009 - 5:24 PM
- - delusionz   Don't floor a cold engine - It's basic sci...   Oct 21, 2009 - 6:43 PM
- - nics   ^^it has been discussed to run it on operating tem...   Oct 21, 2009 - 7:40 PM
- - 6G96GT   Good to know, thanks guys!   Oct 24, 2009 - 10:48 AM


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