so i have been given a real good deal...i think, gen 2 3sgte Options

[TRD_Ian]

like it says iv been offered gen 2 3s pretty much complete.. but bottom end is apart...guy says all the parts are there tho. comes with a tubular mani and adapter flange for t3/t4... also coming with it is an unknown tranny bolted up the guy thinks it it a lsd tranny from a solora but i unno i think its a 5th gen gt tranny.... saposidly its jdm so says the previous owner...comes with a uncut celica harness i assume its a 5th gen and the 3s computer...i unno if motor has harnes or not tho im waiting to hear bak from the seller... the motor had been rebuilt new pistons and rings all new botom end parts and then sold and the new seller wanted the h beam rods outa the motor and now it sits...also coming with and external waste gate and some other things....guy said 450 takes it...what do you guys think?

im also spending alot of time on here researching cause im thinkin about building a stroker, i have been readin old threads all day trying to learn things

any info you guys can give any advice, and if you know of good threads please post i dont wanna over look anything

thanks guys

[lagos]

I'm with Art. It's not a bad deal by any means at all, but if you aren't familiar it will kill you. So if you dont have the desire to face typical issues + fixing someone elses crap, steer clear
I keep reading slvrcelica09 saying the wiring is time consuming, and not hard..... Which is disagree with, there is a REASON everyone sends their gen 2 wiring harness off to get them done. They are a BI**H. Unless Im wrong, then someone please correct me.

people send their harnesses over to tweak bc they dont have the time to convert their own. Its VERY time consuming, but not an impossible feat like most people say. I have experience with wiring and converting, you need to keep a sticky of what goes where, join and connect.. but it is NOT a 1 hour job.. that is not what im saying at all. Im saying if you have the determination you can do anything.. and IMO I wouldn't even do a swap if I didn't want to do the wiring.. wiring is an important part in understanding the car's technical functions.

lol. I dont want to keep busting your balls, but you are really misinformed on this topic.
This is one of those times where the 2nd gen and 3rd gen swaps really DO differ.

The wiring for the 2nd gen swap is extremely involved and should never be attempted by anyone without prior wiring experience. Just about every function of your car needs to be changed over, unlike the 3rd gen swap where you just get the clutch start and fuel pump working and everything else just plugs right in.
This is not something that will take "more than one hour". It takes at least a day or so just to unloom both harnesses and clean them up, not to mention the time you have to put into researching all the functions from both cars.

Unless you have done it before, you really have no idea. The wiring prices that DrTweak and others (cough, cough) have charged are more then worth spending on this conversion.

I'm all for everyone learning as much as they can about their car, but your average 6gc swapper who has just wired in a few subs into his car shouldn't be messing with this.

This post has been edited by lagos: Nov 4, 2009 - 2:08 PM