Plugs and Wire change gone bad, 10 min. job turns into a 2 day plus job Options

[babi_boi]

I was trying to change my spark plugs and wires and ran into a bit of a problem. Usually this job should only take 10-15 mins. The first 2 plugs and wires changed out perfect, no problem at all. On the last 2 plugs, when i pulled out the wires, the little rubber boot stayed in the motor on the plug. I called everywhere to find out what i was suppost to do to get this bottom rubber piece of the wire out of my motor. Everywhere i called told me to go get a pair of long needle nose pliers, stick them down the hole where the plug goes and pull out the rubber peice and continue on with the job. Sounds easy enough so i went ahead and attempted to do what i was advised. All the pliers was doing was taking little chunks of the rubber apart at first, but not pulling it all the way out. Then the pliers got stuck in the hole with the plug and the little rubber piece. I tried to wiggle the pliers back and forth, yanking and pulling on them to get them out, and the handles broke off. So not only do i have a bad spark plug, a little rubber peice(bottom of sparkplug wire) stuck in the plug hole, but now there is also a half of a pair of brand new gearwrench needle noose pliers wedged in there. If you stick your finger in the hole you can feel the needle nose pliers, they are only about a finger nail length down. You can wiggle the pliers back and forth with you finger. So i got a pair of needle nose vise grips and tried to latch on to the broken pliers wedge in my motor. All the needle nose visegrips are doing is slipping off the broken pair. I can not get enough of a grip on them to pull them out.
So my questions are: Does anybody have any idea on how to get the broken pair of pliers out of my motor?
What do i use to get the rubber (bottom of spark plug wire) out of my motor?
If anybody has any suggestions please let me know. Any and all ideas are welcome. Thank you in advance for any feedback.

[babi_boi]

I tried to remove the valve cover before i posted anything and like it was said, same situation just minus the valve cover. but i will attempt the close hanger thing. i tried to use just the hook on it but it was not strong enough, but i will try to get it up enough to pull on both sides. Also i tought about mabe drilling into the pliers then putting screws in the drilled holes to maybe make handle type things. thought maybe it would help to pull them out a little. any opions on the drilling idea. let me know. and keep giving ideas please i need all i can get. thanks

[Spider77]

I tried to remove the valve cover before i posted anything and like it was said, same situation just minus the valve cover. but i will attempt the close hanger thing. i tried to use just the hook on it but it was not strong enough, but i will try to get it up enough to pull on both sides. Also i tought about mabe drilling into the pliers then putting screws in the drilled holes to maybe make handle type things. thought maybe it would help to pull them out a little. any opions on the drilling idea. let me know. and keep giving ideas please i need all i can get. thanks

If you can avoid it, dont drill. How exactly are the pliers situated in the tube? Because they should come out with little to no problem, sounds like they are stuck.

This post has been edited by Spider77: Nov 11, 2009 - 11:58 AM

[babi_boi]

I tried to remove the valve cover before i posted anything and like it was said, same situation just minus the valve cover. but i will attempt the close hanger thing. i tried to use just the hook on it but it was not strong enough, but i will try to get it up enough to pull on both sides. Also i tought about mabe drilling into the pliers then putting screws in the drilled holes to maybe make handle type things. thought maybe it would help to pull them out a little. any opions on the drilling idea. let me know. and keep giving ideas please i need all i can get. thanks

If you can avoid it, dont drill. How exactly are the pliers situated in the tube? Because they should come out with little to no problem, sounds like they are stuck.

By looking down in the tube, standing in the front of the car, the plier would normally open side to side (fender to fender). not front to back bumper to bumper. But it looks like the pliers are jamed over the spark plug. i dont know how i did it but it is stuck in there pretty good.

If you have some CO2 try to freeze the pliers as they will shrink (with a small flexible hose)
It is very useful with bolts so maybe with that too

where would i get co2, and if i was to spray the co2 in the tube, is the wose going to be able to just get the pliers and not the tube as well. Because that would freeze and shrink the tube as well wouldn't it. I dont know just wondering

[domyz]

I tried to remove the valve cover before i posted anything and like it was said, same situation just minus the valve cover. but i will attempt the close hanger thing. i tried to use just the hook on it but it was not strong enough, but i will try to get it up enough to pull on both sides. Also i tought about mabe drilling into the pliers then putting screws in the drilled holes to maybe make handle type things. thought maybe it would help to pull them out a little. any opions on the drilling idea. let me know. and keep giving ideas please i need all i can get. thanks

If you can avoid it, dont drill. How exactly are the pliers situated in the tube? Because they should come out with little to no problem, sounds like they are stuck.

By looking down in the tube, standing in the front of the car, the plier would normally open side to side (fender to fender). not front to back bumper to bumper. But it looks like the pliers are jamed over the spark plug. i dont know how i did it but it is stuck in there pretty good.

If you have some CO2 try to freeze the pliers as they will shrink (with a small flexible hose)
It is very useful with bolts so maybe with that too

where would i get co2, and if i was to spray the co2 in the tube, is the wose going to be able to just get the pliers and not the tube as well. Because that would freeze and shrink the tube as well wouldn't it. I dont know just wondering

you get it at a good plumbing store, the tube will absorb more heat from the block than the pliers if you do it fast, so the pliers will shrink more. *Don't abuse of it, do it fast*

This post has been edited by domyz: Nov 11, 2009 - 4:54 PM