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post Nov 11, 2009 - 4:47 AM
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I was trying to change my spark plugs and wires and ran into a bit of a problem. Usually this job should only take 10-15 mins. The first 2 plugs and wires changed out perfect, no problem at all. On the last 2 plugs, when i pulled out the wires, the little rubber boot stayed in the motor on the plug. I called everywhere to find out what i was suppost to do to get this bottom rubber piece of the wire out of my motor. Everywhere i called told me to go get a pair of long needle nose pliers, stick them down the hole where the plug goes and pull out the rubber peice and continue on with the job. Sounds easy enough so i went ahead and attempted to do what i was advised. All the pliers was doing was taking little chunks of the rubber apart at first, but not pulling it all the way out. Then the pliers got stuck in the hole with the plug and the little rubber piece. I tried to wiggle the pliers back and forth, yanking and pulling on them to get them out, and the handles broke off. So not only do i have a bad spark plug, a little rubber peice(bottom of sparkplug wire) stuck in the plug hole, but now there is also a half of a pair of brand new gearwrench needle noose pliers wedged in there. If you stick your finger in the hole you can feel the needle nose pliers, they are only about a finger nail length down. You can wiggle the pliers back and forth with you finger. So i got a pair of needle nose vise grips and tried to latch on to the broken pliers wedge in my motor. All the needle nose visegrips are doing is slipping off the broken pair. I can not get enough of a grip on them to pull them out.
So my questions are: Does anybody have any idea on how to get the broken pair of pliers out of my motor?
What do i use to get the rubber (bottom of spark plug wire) out of my motor?
If anybody has any suggestions please let me know. Any and all ideas are welcome. Thank you in advance for any feedback.


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post Nov 13, 2009 - 12:13 AM
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Ah, EM-53.

If you look over the preparation section of the manual you'll note the adhesive section contains three items.

08826–00080 Seal Packing Black or equivalent (FIPG)
08833–00070 Adhesive 1324, THREE BOND 1324 or equivalent
08833–00080 Adhesive 1344 THREE BOND 1344 LOCTITE 242 or equivalent

Loctite 242 is blue thread locker. Both of the Three Bond products mentioned are also thread lockers, rather than gasket seals.

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- babi_boi   Plugs and Wire change gone bad   Nov 11, 2009 - 4:47 AM
- - trdproven   happened to me on my camry but yours sounds worse,...   Nov 11, 2009 - 6:14 AM
- - Spider77   Wow, those must be some really cheap needle nose p...   Nov 11, 2009 - 8:21 AM
|- - babi_boi   QUOTE (Spider77 @ Nov 11, 2009 - 9:2...   Nov 11, 2009 - 9:47 AM
- - babi_boi   Thank you for the advise. I went to the part store...   Nov 11, 2009 - 9:42 AM
- - bmj67   if there is any gap at all between the jaws of the...   Nov 11, 2009 - 11:17 AM
- - domyz   removing the valve cover could give you space, if ...   Nov 11, 2009 - 11:30 AM
- - Spider77   How would removing the valve cover help? As the t...   Nov 11, 2009 - 11:41 AM
- - babi_boi   I tried to remove the valve cover before i posted ...   Nov 11, 2009 - 11:47 AM
|- - Spider77   QUOTE (babi_boi @ Nov 11, 2009 - 12...   Nov 11, 2009 - 11:56 AM
|- - babi_boi   QUOTE (Spider77 @ Nov 11, 2009 - 12...   Nov 11, 2009 - 1:53 PM
|- - domyz   QUOTE (babi_boi @ Nov 11, 2009 - 2:5...   Nov 11, 2009 - 4:54 PM
- - domyz   If you have some CO2 try to freeze the pliers as t...   Nov 11, 2009 - 12:08 PM
- - trdproven   try to find that claw thing or a really strong mag...   Nov 11, 2009 - 4:57 PM
- - Spider77   So, any luck with this? So, this might sound back...   Nov 11, 2009 - 6:00 PM
- - solidxsnake   You could also try heating the tube instead of coo...   Nov 11, 2009 - 6:21 PM
- - Galcobar   Or maybe just remove the tube. Pull the valve cove...   Nov 12, 2009 - 1:16 AM
|- - babi_boi   QUOTE (Galcobar @ Nov 12, 2009 - 2:1...   Nov 12, 2009 - 10:26 AM
- - trdproven   ^ Not necessary, Ive been in this situation before...   Nov 12, 2009 - 6:56 AM
- - babi_boi   So heres the deal, i have tried to use needle nose...   Nov 12, 2009 - 10:10 AM
- - AMCMoe   Where in PA are you?   Nov 12, 2009 - 12:15 PM
|- - babi_boi   QUOTE (AMCMoe @ Nov 12, 2009 - 1:15 ...   Nov 12, 2009 - 2:03 PM
- - Bigblock   Can you get one of those cheap box cutters--long n...   Nov 12, 2009 - 12:42 PM
- - bmj67   i would not drill the pliers because when you do g...   Nov 12, 2009 - 2:52 PM
- - babi_boi   Ok so i finally got the pliers out, and all the pe...   Nov 12, 2009 - 3:56 PM
- - Spider77   Wow, what a process. Well im glad that you got th...   Nov 12, 2009 - 5:44 PM
- - bmj67   dont forget to use sealant on the bottom of the tu...   Nov 12, 2009 - 5:50 PM
|- - babi_boi   QUOTE (bmj67 @ Nov 12, 2009 - 6:50 P...   Nov 12, 2009 - 6:29 PM
- - bmj67   _   Nov 12, 2009 - 8:19 PM
- - Galcobar   NO -- DO NOT use FIPG or any other valve-cover goo...   Nov 12, 2009 - 10:22 PM
- - bmj67   3. INSTALL SPARK PLUG TUBES (a) Clean the cylinder...   Nov 12, 2009 - 10:55 PM
- - Galcobar   Could you please link to the appropriate BGB page,...   Nov 12, 2009 - 11:14 PM
- - bmj67   http://www.camrystuff.com/manuals/Gen4/Eng...chani...   Nov 12, 2009 - 11:42 PM
- - Galcobar   Ah, EM-53. If you look over the preparation secti...   Nov 13, 2009 - 12:13 AM
- - babi_boi   Ok so now i know what to use to re-install the tub...   Nov 13, 2009 - 9:40 AM
- - Bitter   if you're there then yes, reseal the tubes.   Nov 13, 2009 - 8:49 PM


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