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post Nov 14, 2003 - 4:11 AM
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Is our car faster than a 7th gen gt? I was just looking at the specs and they only have 10 more hp than us(gt) and we have about 10 more Tq. So does anybosy know which is faster assuming that both were being driving my equal drivers. If im wrong on the specs can someone clarify. confused.gif
 
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post Dec 15, 2003 - 2:19 AM
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QUOTE (Simmo @ Dec 14, 2003 - 4:31 PM)
Through experience...
0 to 60, the 6th gen (uk spec) is fatser than the gen 7 (uk spec)
60 to 100, the gen 7 makes up the ground what with the lift and all.
Both cars max out at about 145mph (Gen 6 was in front biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif )

UK spec wouldn't count in this case...however, the 7th gen GTS will pull on the 3sge powered SS2 (UK GT) in the longer run. I'll say, maybe the UK Spec GT will win 0-60... but not 0-100. Don't underestimate that car. It's lighter, and more powerful than an SS2... only thing it lacks is torque, but because its revvy nature and the way it makes power and delivers its power, I'll argue, it can take an SS2 (around 170-180 bhp) in the longer distance, while losing out on the launch due to its lack of low-end torque... then again, the 3sge isn't a torquey beast like the 5sfe anyways...
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from what i have read
the auto gts is a far cry from an example of how fast a 7thgen gts is.

heh, exactly correct... about a 2 second difference... Put it this way, stock for stock, a 7th gen GTS is much quicker than a 2nd gen alltrac (5th gen model alltrac)...
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According to what I have read on other pages, the GT-4 (6th gen) spanks the ass of the 7th gen GTS. As the guy put it:

The GTS takes a good driver to know just when to accelerate through a corner. If it's not done properly, you loose traction.

HOWEVER, with the GT-4 you just lay on the accelerator and let the differentials distribute the power wherever it is needed or not. Takes much of the effort out of racing, but who cares? Plus, you have hella more power through the straighs of the course, and we know who is going to own there.

If you've ever driven track, you'll understand what I mean why the 3rd gen gt-4 (6th gen model) is too fat and sluggish to be competitive stock for stock against a 7th gen GTS on the track. Even in Rally, it was replaced by a smaller, lighter, better designed vehicle... in the corolla hatchback. It's rated at around 1600 kg weight (gt-4 around 3400-3500 pounds) compared to 2400-2500 pounds of the 7th gen GTS... so the power and torque isn't that huge of a difference in terms of accelerating through corners, but the deal is with the suspension and chassi designs. Basically, the 6th gen chassi and suspension design is old... and obsolete when compared to newer cars. The 7th gen, for one, has one of the best chassi designs ever, for a fwd compat sports car. When you compare the difficulties between driving the gt4 and the GTS... of course they're different, and one is obviously gonna be more difficult than the other, however, it's not a fair argument to say just because the gt4 is easier to drive means it'll win. Drivers know their cars when they race them... and again, I will mention, power isn't everything. The Revolver Hachi, rated around 180 ps, won the D1 drifting comp this year, with about 1/2 the HP of its competitors. Obviously, that hachi can't be making more than 120-130 ftlbs of torque, and it's not making hundreds of ponies, so why did it win? Same reason why it's the cult legend drift car.

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- Toyota_guy31783   faster than a 7th gen.....   Nov 14, 2003 - 4:11 AM
- - doGGy   QUOTE (Toyota_guy31783 @ Nov 14, 2003 - 2:11 AM) I...   Nov 14, 2003 - 5:33 AM
- - idriveatruckWTF   I beat my cousin's a 7th gen GT AUTO, with my ...   Nov 14, 2003 - 10:34 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (idriveatruckWTF @ Nov 14, 2003 - 7:34 PM) I...   Nov 15, 2003 - 2:05 AM
- - Kwanza   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Nov 15, 2003 - 12:05 AM) a 5sp...   Nov 19, 2003 - 1:08 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Kwanza @ Nov 18, 2003 - 10:08 PM) QUOT...   Nov 19, 2003 - 1:36 AM
- - Kwanza   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Nov 18, 2003 - 11:36 PM) [that...   Nov 19, 2003 - 2:22 PM
- - macavely   ok i have and ST auto and i have gotten my as hand...   Nov 19, 2003 - 2:48 PM
- - neoklis   Hey guys, I just feel sorry for you in the states....   Dec 4, 2003 - 9:49 AM
- - Kwanza   QUOTE (neoklis @ Dec 4, 2003 - 7:49 AM) Hey guys, ...   Dec 4, 2003 - 2:57 PM
- - Digndoug   Really if you guy's are going to talk about ra...   Dec 4, 2003 - 3:40 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Dec 4, 2003 - 12:40 PM) Really i...   Dec 4, 2003 - 5:29 PM
- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE (Kwanza @ Dec 4, 2003 - 12:57 PM) QUOTE (neo...   Dec 4, 2003 - 6:00 PM
- - Kwanza   QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ Dec 4, 2003 - 4:00 PM)...   Dec 4, 2003 - 6:27 PM
- - Simmo   Through experience... 0 to 60, the 6th gen (uk sp...   Dec 14, 2003 - 6:31 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   I have posted this before. My girlfriend OWNS a 7t...   Dec 15, 2003 - 12:22 AM
- - FallenHero   According to what I have read on other pages, the ...   Dec 15, 2003 - 12:39 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ Dec 14, 2003 - 9:22 PM) I have ...   Dec 15, 2003 - 1:24 AM
- - Kwanza   QUOTE (Simmo @ Dec 14, 2003 - 4:31 PM) Throug...   Dec 15, 2003 - 2:19 AM
- - poix   hmm interesting discussion. well i know definatel...   Dec 15, 2003 - 2:59 AM
- - Kwanza   QUOTE hmm interesting discussion. well i know def...   Dec 15, 2003 - 3:22 AM
- - macavely   I just want to tell some of you guys on here that ...   Dec 15, 2003 - 5:12 AM


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