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post Nov 22, 2009 - 9:33 PM
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I think I killed my turbo. It doesn't look to good. I added an oil reallocator to the car. http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad61/do...1-21_231434.jpg

After 3 days later my old pressure light cut on and I started hearing a scratching sound then boost went to zero. I pulled over right a way and had the car towed home. There was no oil leaks anywhere. I pulled of the air filter and took a picture of the inlet. http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad61/do...1-21_214320.jpg

Should I have it rebuilt or should i get CT27 or upgrade? I know if I upgrade I will need a new manifold. http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad61/do...1-21_231145.jpg

I want to get 300-350 HP if possible if I upgrade.
 
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post Nov 23, 2009 - 10:07 PM
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same as the CT20B in spool and in power.


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post Nov 23, 2009 - 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Nov 23, 2009 - 11:07 PM) *
same as the CT20B in spool and in power.


I would have to change the manifold and the down pipe. Is it worth it? I don't think I can find any one to rebuild the CT20B. I'm looking on-line for places. I don't want to take the cheap way out.
post Nov 24, 2009 - 7:21 AM
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QUOTE (speed-CCNP @ Nov 23, 2009 - 11:15 PM) *
QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Nov 23, 2009 - 11:07 PM) *
same as the CT20B in spool and in power.


I would have to change the manifold and the down pipe. Is it worth it? I don't think I can find any one to rebuild the CT20B. I'm looking on-line for places. I don't want to take the cheap way out.


Yes you are correct. But you can buy GEN3 Exhaust manifolds for cheap (50USD) and pick a GEN3 CT20B for around 500usd. As far as the DP, you can buy one for the GEN3 and spend as little or as much as you like...they range from 60-300usd.

If money is not an issue, then I would buy a bigger turbo kit for you car...Like an S252, GT3071, or td06. This will fix your problem, be an upgrade, max out your injectors, etc. The only down side is it will cost you about 800-1500 more then replacing your turbo with a CT20B turbo setup from a GEN3.


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post Nov 24, 2009 - 6:59 PM
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Thanks Jim

Will a GEN3 Exhaust manifold give me the flow I want if I upgrade the turbo? Would that one I found on Ebay work?
CELICA-CT26-TURBO-MANIFOLD-3SGTE-SW20-CT20B
3S-GTE-Turbo-Manifold-Down-Pipe

Is this the turbo?
ats_racing_td06_turbocharger

Will my stock block and head be able to handle the upgraded turbo? Do I need to upgrade the valves, cams and gears too?




post Nov 24, 2009 - 7:19 PM
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QUOTE (speed-CCNP @ Nov 24, 2009 - 6:59 PM) *
Thanks Jim

Will a GEN3 Exhaust manifold give me the flow I want if I upgrade the turbo? Would that one I found on Ebay work?
CELICA-CT26-TURBO-MANIFOLD-3SGTE-SW20-CT20B
3S-GTE-Turbo-Manifold-Down-Pipe

Is this the turbo?
ats_racing_td06_turbocharger

Will my stock block and head be able to handle the upgraded turbo? Do I need to upgrade the valves, cams and gears too?


Yes, a stock GEN3 Exhaust manifold will flow PLENTY for what you will be doing with it. there is no need for an aftermarket manifold, and the one you posted is prone to cracking.

As for the downpipe you posted, that will work fine.

As for the turbo, Your stock long block will be PERFECT for this turbo. You will be pushing in the ball park of 350whp at 17-18psi, and it will be perfectly safe.

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post Nov 24, 2009 - 8:21 PM
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350whp...... really!! biggrin.gif That's oly 100 hp less than my mustang.

what FCD did you use? I'm hoping that will fix my acceleration issue. When I accelerate too fast the car bogs.



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post Nov 24, 2009 - 9:10 PM
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QUOTE (speed-CCNP @ Nov 24, 2009 - 9:21 PM) *
350whp...... really!! biggrin.gif That's oly 100 hp less than my mustang.

what FCD did you use? I'm hoping that will fix my acceleration issue. When I accelerate too fast the car bogs.



Yes, you should see around those number +/- 10whp. And VERYYY Nice mustang by the way, you have apparently put a lot of time and money into, well done....I cant wait to see what you do with the Celica wink.gif

The FCD I used was for an SRT4/DSM. It is a symtech. It is a 5v active map clamp style FCD. A FCD will only fix boost/fuel cut when excedding 18psi. If you are bogging below 18psi, something else is to blame.


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post Nov 24, 2009 - 9:40 PM
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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Nov 24, 2009 - 10:10 PM) *
Yes, you should see around those number +/- 10whp. And VERYYY Nice mustang by the way, you have apparently put a lot of time and money into, well done....I cant wait to see what you do with the Celica wink.gif

The FCD I used was for an SRT4/DSM. It is a symtech. It is a 5v active map clamp style FCD. A FCD will only fix boost/fuel cut when excedding 18psi. If you are bogging below 18psi, something else is to blame.


Thanks, I have had this stang for 4 years now. Almost time to sell it. I get a new one every 3 - 5 years. I plan to work on my '68 stang next.

I will look for the FCD tonight.







perfect!! I will try to contact him now. Thanks

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- speed-CCNP   Dead Turbo   Nov 22, 2009 - 9:33 PM
- - freddy121389   ouch sounds like you should figure out the oil pro...   Nov 22, 2009 - 9:58 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   If I can stick with the CT20b i guess that is the ...   Nov 23, 2009 - 10:39 AM
|- - speed-CCNP   QUOTE (freddy121389 @ Nov 22, 2009 - 10...   Nov 23, 2009 - 10:18 PM
- - bccentaur3   If it wasn't getting to the turbo, its not goi...   Nov 22, 2009 - 11:53 PM
- - speed-CCNP   http://www.atsracing.net/CT27.htm CT27... any goo...   Nov 23, 2009 - 8:04 PM
- - _Jim_   same as the CT20B in spool and in power.   Nov 23, 2009 - 10:07 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Nov 23, 2009 - 11:07 ...   Nov 23, 2009 - 10:15 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (speed-CCNP @ Nov 23, 2009 - ...   Nov 24, 2009 - 7:21 AM
|- - speed-CCNP   Thanks Jim Will a GEN3 Exhaust manifold give me t...   Nov 24, 2009 - 6:59 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (speed-CCNP @ Nov 24, 2009 - ...   Nov 24, 2009 - 7:19 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   350whp...... really!! That's oly 10...   Nov 24, 2009 - 8:21 PM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (speed-CCNP @ Nov 24, 2009 - ...   Nov 24, 2009 - 9:10 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   how does this look? Turbo kit   Nov 24, 2009 - 9:18 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Nov 24, 2009 - 10:10 ...   Nov 24, 2009 - 9:40 PM
- - _Jim_   Hahaha, you just WANT a nice shiny exhaust manifol...   Nov 24, 2009 - 9:26 PM
- - _Jim_   Any time man, you will REALLY LOVE this kit.   Nov 25, 2009 - 9:30 PM
- - lagos   Those ebay exhaust manifolds you posted are junk. ...   Nov 25, 2009 - 10:05 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   I took Jim's advice and contacted Baktash. He...   Nov 26, 2009 - 9:47 AM
- - Magic   I am using Garrett GT3071R Turbo from ATP (.64A/R)...   Nov 26, 2009 - 10:49 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Magic @ Nov 26, 2009 - 10:49 ...   Nov 26, 2009 - 11:25 AM
|- - Magic   QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 26, 2009 - 6:2...   Nov 26, 2009 - 12:04 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   The 3071R is a great turbo. Did u go with the 2.7...   Nov 26, 2009 - 3:29 PM
|- - Magic   QUOTE (speed-CCNP @ Nov 26, 2009 - ...   Nov 26, 2009 - 4:38 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   Those are great numbers!   Nov 27, 2009 - 11:23 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   UPDATED PICTURES I pulled the old turbo off today...   Nov 27, 2009 - 11:48 PM
- - Magic   Lot of work man.... What about ECU?What boost you...   Nov 28, 2009 - 2:38 PM
- - speed-CCNP   QUOTE (Magic @ Nov 28, 2009 - 3:38 P...   Nov 30, 2009 - 12:45 PM
- - speed-CCNP   I have the new turbo installed!!! ...   Mar 15, 2010 - 1:27 PM


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