Spoilerless people Options

[samir0189]

I took of my stock 2 post spoiler today, and i noticed a HUGE difference in the way the car feels at speeds above ~60 mph. Lighter? More unstable than before? does anyone else feel that difference or is it mind over matter?

[playr158]

you people make me giggle. i KNOW EXACTLY what down force and a wing and how it is created.
and NO its not slower velocity

wings create down force by HIGHER velocity of air under the wing than over the wing. This creates a LOW pressure zone below the wing and a HIGH pressure zone above the wing, thus giving down force.
(this effect is not only used for wings, but if you look at McLaren F1, Saleen S7, Ferrari Enzo...they all have smooth as possible under bodies (Saleen having a full carbon paneled under carriage) to INCREASE the velocity of the air traveling under the car. The faster the air the lower the pressure and the more down force created, this is how the S7 in particular is able to generate twice its body weight in down force)

boxer's.....you want to see the wing we put on my friend's 911 GT3 thats functional, or maybe the 3-series MOD class race car I worked on.

next time you want to tell someone they don't know what they are talking about at least use real terms "spoils air"
Just because you stick something back there doesn't mean its functional and helping you. It has to actually be correct.


my point is the 2 post and 3 post celica spoilers are non-function visual pieces. the GT4 wing however is mildly functional.

This post has been edited by playr158: Dec 5, 2008 - 12:38 AM

[solidxsnake]

you people make me giggle. i KNOW EXACTLY what down force and a wing and how it is created.
and NO its not slower velocity

wings create down force by HIGHER velocity of air under the wing than over the wing. This creates a LOW pressure zone below the wing and a HIGH pressure zone above the wing, thus giving down force.
(this effect is not only used for wings, but if you look at McLaren F1, Saleen S7, Ferrari Enzo...they all have smooth as possible under bodies (Saleen having a full carbon paneled under carriage) to INCREASE the velocity of the air traveling under the car. The faster the air the lower the pressure and the more down force created, this is how the S7 in particular is able to generate twice its body weight in down force)

boxer's.....you want to see the wing we put on my friend's 911 GT3 thats functional, or maybe the 3-series MOD class race car I worked on.

next time you want to tell someone they don't know what they are talking about at least use real terms "spoils air"
Just because you stick something back there doesn't mean its functional and helping you. It has to actually be correct.


my point is the 2 post and 3 post celica spoilers are non-function visual pieces. the GT4 wing however is mildly functional.

While I agree that the spoiler on a 6gc probably does next to nothing, you described a wing, and not a spoiler.

Wings are designed to increase downforce, at the cost of creating drag (due to Bernoulli's principle). Spoilers aim to reduce drag.