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post Dec 28, 2009 - 6:50 AM
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Ok, so I just found out that VVT-i was like dual variable valve timing for HP and TQ. So anyone know how this is beneficial or worse in let's say a 3sgte engine? As I am aware there is a 4th gen engine that has this VVT-i technology (I think).

(I had made a n00b out of myself with the original posting, so I made this thread up to make up for it in another n00bish fashion, but with more to gain from it than my original thread, so my bad.)

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post Jan 7, 2010 - 11:33 AM
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very good info Edophus. And it would be more like the B18C jdm spec motor vs the Beams Redtop. the b18c6 only produces 190 hp.

also if I may add one thing. How much power would the beams redtop lose if you were to attach an egr to it.

The reason why I asking this question is becuase the jdm spec integra type r produces 198 hp at 138 lb torque with a 4-1 header, while the USDM spec Integra type R produces 195 hp at 130 lb ft torque. How the hell is that? I know that jdm spec runs 100 Ron = 94 octane, and the usdm spec engine runs 95 ron = 91 octane in California and 98 ron = 93 octane in other states across the U.S.

So how is that that they were able to bring over such a high reving from japan and tweak it so that it only loses 3 hp. Was it the egr that made the usdm spec engine lose 3 hp, or becuase of the lower octane that is provided here in the U.S?

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post Jan 7, 2010 - 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 7, 2010 - 4:33 PM) *
very good info Edophus. And it would be more like the B18C jdm spec motor vs the Beams Redtop. the b18c6 only produces 190 hp.


oh that was the one i meant laugh.gif , for some reason i remembered it as the c6 but your quite right!

corrected smile.gif i think its a pretty good comparison, my freind had a 98 spec engine (B18C lol) in his 96 spec integra type-r and we both travelled to track days together, my ss3 despite being a bit heavier used exactly the same amount of fuel, i mean we were filling up at the same time and putting in the same amount with only pennies difference, both were tuned to the same level, and one was as quick as the other to the point of putting in virtually identical laptimes, they just both went about it with different characteristics, so highlights the benefits of a vvti engine in terms of its ability to bring performance and economy to the mix.

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Posts in this topic
- Random_Stranger   Benefits of going VVT-i?   Dec 28, 2009 - 6:50 AM
- - Supersprynt   It helps in creating the most efficient timing ove...   Dec 28, 2009 - 10:03 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   Actually the 4th gen 3sgte that came in caldina st...   Dec 28, 2009 - 12:21 PM
- - 96bluevert   ^^What he said. Only the BEAMS 3sge had VVT-i in t...   Dec 28, 2009 - 2:39 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (96bluevert @ Dec 28, 2009 - 11...   Dec 28, 2009 - 4:54 PM
- - Supersprynt   Yes, the black-top Altezza beams had dual (intake ...   Dec 28, 2009 - 5:05 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Dec 28, 2009 - 2...   Dec 28, 2009 - 5:25 PM
- - manphibian   As i understand it, variable valve timing is more ...   Dec 28, 2009 - 5:10 PM
- - Supersprynt   They help overall efficiency. Power, fuel economy,...   Dec 28, 2009 - 5:29 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Dec 28, 2009 - 2...   Dec 28, 2009 - 7:03 PM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Dec 28, 2009 - ...   Dec 28, 2009 - 8:09 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (Hanyo @ Dec 28, 2009 - 8:09 P...   Dec 28, 2009 - 10:02 PM
|- - Rusty   QUOTE (Hanyo @ Dec 29, 2009 - 2:09 P...   Dec 29, 2009 - 1:45 AM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (Rusty @ Dec 28, 2009 - 10:45 ...   Dec 29, 2009 - 3:32 AM
|- - Rusty   QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Dec 29, 2009 - ...   Jan 7, 2010 - 3:07 AM
|- - Edophus   to get your head round what vvti brings its worth ...   Jan 7, 2010 - 4:33 AM
- - HaysoosKreesto   I would be quite interested if they ever came out ...   Dec 28, 2009 - 7:38 PM
- - Supersprynt   They're not exactly the same, but they are the...   Dec 28, 2009 - 7:49 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Dec 28, 2009 - 4...   Dec 28, 2009 - 7:56 PM
- - Hanyo   QUOTE (manphibian @ Dec 28, 2009 - 2...   Dec 28, 2009 - 8:03 PM
|- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE (Hanyo @ Dec 29, 2009 - 1:03 A...   Dec 29, 2009 - 3:45 PM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Dec 29, 2009 ...   Dec 29, 2009 - 6:13 PM
- - Smaay   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Dec 28, 2009 - 4...   Dec 29, 2009 - 6:33 PM
|- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 29, 2009 - 11:33 ...   Dec 30, 2009 - 1:01 AM
||- - Smaay   QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Dec 29, 2009 ...   Jan 6, 2010 - 3:20 PM
|- - HaysoosKreesto   QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 29, 2009 - 6:33 P...   Dec 30, 2009 - 3:13 AM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (HaysoosKreesto @ Dec 30, 2009 - 4...   Dec 30, 2009 - 6:38 PM
- - Random_Stranger   ^^^ That's a fast frigging 7th gen   Dec 29, 2009 - 7:16 PM
- - blu94gt   A couple different people have hit the answer. VV...   Dec 30, 2009 - 1:59 AM
- - hatchy_gt-s   ^ once again no it was the elise in 2004   Jan 7, 2010 - 12:14 AM
- - garin   QUOTE (garin @ Jan 7, 2010 - 12:11 A...   Jan 7, 2010 - 12:21 AM
- - nics   http://www.youtube.com/user/magusownz#p/u/47/2vfxn...   Jan 7, 2010 - 2:35 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   very good info Edophus. And it would be more like ...   Jan 7, 2010 - 11:33 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 7, 2010 - 4...   Jan 7, 2010 - 11:41 AM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 7, 2010 - 8...   Jan 8, 2010 - 4:08 PM
|- - HaysoosKreesto   QUOTE (Hanyo @ Jan 8, 2010 - 4:08 PM...   Jan 8, 2010 - 4:20 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   reply to my long question plz   Jan 7, 2010 - 11:48 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 7, 2010 - 4...   Jan 8, 2010 - 4:15 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   hmm ok i see. Ill just have to ask at the next typ...   Jan 8, 2010 - 12:05 PM
- - Rusty   I dont know Hanyo UK spec ST202 with the 3gen 3sge...   Jan 8, 2010 - 11:53 PM


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