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post Oct 21, 2009 - 5:43 AM
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Hey guys, if you have restoration experience i could really use your help.

The paint job and all the dents finally put me in the position to sell the 6g. problem was i couldnt find a car that can match the 6g's "feel" if you know what i mean. Since having a shop repair her is so expensive, i figured ill tackle restoring her on my own. After watching alot of youtube videos and reading how-to's on restoration, im confident enough to try it, but still have a few questions and would appreciate your opinions.

(1) money and quality wise would you recommend i do a maaco job or tackle painting on my own(either rent a booth or enclosed tent)?

(2) are there any considerations/advice for using bondo or other recommended products on non-metal surfaces such as the bumper and sideskirts? will the flexibility of the bumper be a problem?

(3) Im pretty much gonna sand/bondo the entire car and am considering a bodykit. If i were to get a cheap one off ebay, will getting the thing to fit be the same as sanding and bondoing the thing, or will i need to do some fiberglass work? Id love the gt-four look, have any recommendations on where to get bodykits for cheap?

(4) I am also having problems with rust below both doors. Rust cant be seen from the outside, but looking from the inside, it is definitely a problem. Would u recommend i restore it myself by cutting and welding or just replace the door entirely?

(5) When i do paint it, would you recommend i remove different parts; hood, trunk, doors? also, would it be worth my while to remove things like the lining and windshields? id figure sanding and bondoing would be nicer with the linings removed.

(6) Any videos and/or websites would you recommend i check out before i start. most of the videos i watched seemed to be from the 80's. any videos with more modern techniques? or has restoration been pretty much ageless.

This is alot of info and questions but i would appreciate any input on 1, 2, or all of my questions.

Thanks,
-Joel

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post Jan 22, 2010 - 12:00 PM
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QUOTE (captb @ Jan 21, 2010 - 6:08 PM) *
thanks for all the advice b1gr3d. as far as bodykits i kinda abandoned the idea and just using oem parts. I got a tom's lip but its cut into 2 pieces but for $100 shipped i couldnt refuse. do you have any recommendations for a good 2 part bonder? and when i install the new window what is a good sealant to use or are they generally all the same?

oh, and that reminds me. i actually got replacement doors off a vert but when i was installing it the driver side door was bent a little. so i pounded it and its ready for bondo but i didnt realize while pounding it i broke the seal between the inner and outer part of the door. it looks as if the outer metal is bent inward and the inner metal sits inside it. because of the difficulty of reforming the metal, is it really that important that the inner metal is sandwiched between the parts of the outer door or is alright if I just have them touching and use the seam sealer to bond them. I can get pictures to clarify if needed.

and when patching holes and what not i figured id cut a few corners and go with fiberglass rather then welding on new pieces. but honestly i think i might abandon this project all together and get a '98-99 celica to work on. reasons? well im getting tired of looking for quality parts for a coupe and the price of facelifted bumper, side skirts, and paint would cost about the same as trading in my car. So Hawaii guys, let me know if you see anything? biggrin.gif

3m fusor- i have used it om bedside and roof skins. GM uses something similar on some panels from the factory and they even used something similar on "musclecar" on spike tv for an old mustang roof skin. i think it runs $50 a tube but its well worth it and you won't use much. OR you could sell it to me...

As far as the doors go - if there is a gap you need to hammer and dolly the skin as close to the inner door as possible then seam seal it. the seam seal it just acts a a seal, not a bonder. again your other doors are salvagable and it sounds like you will do less work with them then the parts doors
if you have a welder just weld the holes...you wont be "cutting corners" by using fiberglass....you will be doing it WRONG.
the windows you need to use 3m windshiled urethane. i used 1 tube for both quarter glass'


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post Jan 22, 2010 - 4:48 PM
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QUOTE (b1gr3d @ Jan 22, 2010 - 12:00 PM) *
3m fusor- i have used it om bedside and roof skins. GM uses something similar on some panels from the factory and they even used something similar on "musclecar" on spike tv for an old mustang roof skin. i think it runs $50 a tube but its well worth it and you won't use much. OR you could sell it to me...

As far as the doors go - if there is a gap you need to hammer and dolly the skin as close to the inner door as possible then seam seal it. the seam seal it just acts a a seal, not a bonder. again your other doors are salvagable and it sounds like you will do less work with them then the parts doors
if you have a welder just weld the holes...you wont be "cutting corners" by using fiberglass....you will be doing it WRONG.
the windows you need to use 3m windshiled urethane. i used 1 tube for both quarter glass'


the 3m fusor or the toms lip. tongue.gif

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- captb   Advice/Progress Thread   Oct 21, 2009 - 5:43 AM
- - NewOrleans   QUOTE (captb @ Oct 21, 2009 - 5:43 A...   Oct 21, 2009 - 10:20 AM
- - captb   Thanks NewOrleans, ill be sure to check out ...   Oct 22, 2009 - 3:27 AM
- - 808celica   Hey guys, if you have restoration experience i cou...   Oct 22, 2009 - 6:14 AM
- - CastrolCelica   1. Do you like my car? If so, you'll like Maac...   Oct 22, 2009 - 4:04 PM
- - presure2   these guys, especially 808 and castrol have the ri...   Oct 22, 2009 - 4:33 PM
- - Bigblock   Agreed--what ever you can take off prior to sandin...   Oct 22, 2009 - 8:44 PM
|- - CastrolCelica   QUOTE (Bigblock @ Oct 22, 2009 - 9:4...   Oct 23, 2009 - 12:23 AM
- - CastrolCelica   PS: If you do decide to paint it yourself, please ...   Oct 23, 2009 - 12:34 AM
- - captb   Thanks for all the advice guys. and i definitely w...   Oct 23, 2009 - 5:45 PM
|- - CastrolCelica   QUOTE (captb @ Oct 23, 2009 - 6:45 P...   Oct 23, 2009 - 6:16 PM
- - Nartanian   and suscribed lol   Oct 23, 2009 - 7:01 PM
|- - captb   edit   Dec 9, 2009 - 7:11 AM
- - captb   Thanks for the advice guys. Honestly, all this inp...   Oct 23, 2009 - 7:26 PM
- - captb   Can anyone tell me how to take the window trims of...   Oct 25, 2009 - 2:32 AM
- - 808celica   Personally i wouldn't. It will be more of a ha...   Oct 25, 2009 - 4:40 AM
- - captb   Hey 808, Id prefer leaving the trim on but there i...   Oct 25, 2009 - 5:14 AM
- - 808celica   getting anything big and heavy shipped to hawaii I...   Oct 25, 2009 - 6:25 AM
|- - trdproven   QUOTE (808celica @ Oct 25, 2009 - 9...   Oct 27, 2009 - 9:00 AM
|- - captb   QUOTE (trdproven @ Oct 27, 2009 - 9...   Dec 9, 2009 - 7:18 AM
- - captb   heres some pictures i have now. ill get pictures o...   Oct 25, 2009 - 6:59 AM
- - 808celica   why didnt you say you're from Hi. Is this Waik...   Oct 25, 2009 - 11:12 PM
- - captb   haha. funny. but ya im the same guy. im pretty sur...   Oct 26, 2009 - 3:15 AM
- - 808celica   lolz must've been a long time then. next one i...   Oct 26, 2009 - 3:28 AM
- - captb   shoots. ill help rep the 6g's. thanks for th...   Oct 26, 2009 - 4:17 AM
- - CastrolCelica   I took off the driver and passenger weather stripp...   Oct 26, 2009 - 9:08 AM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE (CastrolCelica @ Oct 26, 2009 - 4...   Oct 26, 2009 - 3:33 PM
- - captb   I've been pretty smomped lately so all the rep...   Oct 28, 2009 - 9:39 PM
- - 808celica   Hoooooooooo!!! seriously?!?!?...   Oct 29, 2009 - 5:13 AM
- - captb   Dont want to start a knew thread for this but can ...   Nov 2, 2009 - 4:02 PM
- - 808celica   coupe and vert is the same just one has no roof at...   Nov 3, 2009 - 5:29 AM
|- - captb   QUOTE (808celica @ Nov 3, 2009 - 6:2...   Nov 3, 2009 - 5:59 AM
- - 808celica   its cool we'll be a Kbay base   Nov 3, 2009 - 5:56 PM
- - captb   Bump... Please read edited first post.   Nov 26, 2009 - 6:25 AM
- - freddy121389   i recently just got a toms lip, repaired it and pa...   Nov 26, 2009 - 1:21 PM
- - 808celica   200 shipped for a cut toms?? hmm where you gonna b...   Nov 26, 2009 - 1:22 PM
|- - captb   QUOTE (808celica @ Nov 26, 2009 - 1...   Nov 26, 2009 - 3:43 PM
- - freddy121389   i posted a pic, you do not want to use bondo or fi...   Nov 26, 2009 - 8:50 PM
|- - captb   QUOTE (freddy121389 @ Nov 26, 2009 - 8...   Nov 26, 2009 - 9:45 PM
- - azian_advanced   if you buy from jdm-pro-tokyo on ebay, he will shi...   Nov 27, 2009 - 1:35 AM
|- - captb   QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Nov 27, 2009 - 1...   Nov 27, 2009 - 2:00 AM
- - captb   k, i've been really busy with school so havent...   Dec 9, 2009 - 7:07 AM
- - captb   So heres the update, finally found time to work on...   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:09 AM
- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (captb @ Jan 19, 2010 - 12:09 ...   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:16 AM
- - captb   ^Thanks. wouldnt the coupes and the hatches have ...   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:24 AM
- - SwissFerdi   No, I'm 99% sure they do not. The rear end of ...   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:29 AM
- - captb   thanks, ill modify my wtb to reflect a coupe.   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:40 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   danggg...that sucks,you need to start sanding...   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:49 AM
- - 808celica   Joel, there's a beat down coupe at the ABC j...   Jan 19, 2010 - 3:49 AM
|- - captb   QUOTE (808celica @ Jan 19, 2010 - 4...   Jan 19, 2010 - 6:05 AM
- - 808celica   i would take it off myself. you go in, no tools ye...   Jan 19, 2010 - 6:09 AM
|- - captb   QUOTE (808celica @ Jan 19, 2010 - 7...   Jan 19, 2010 - 6:31 AM
- - SwissFerdi   Hair dryer? Worth a try. You'd have a problem ...   Jan 19, 2010 - 1:41 PM
|- - captb   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jan 19, 2010 - 1...   Jan 19, 2010 - 4:02 PM
- - 808celica   havent taken a window out before mabye a rubber ha...   Jan 19, 2010 - 4:11 PM
- - b1gr3d   i just skimmed through your thread so bear with me...   Jan 20, 2010 - 2:11 PM
|- - davidfang   [quote name='b1gr3d' date='Jan 20, 201...   Jan 21, 2010 - 12:00 PM
|- - captb   thanks for all the advice b1gr3d. as far as bodyki...   Jan 21, 2010 - 7:08 PM
|- - davidfang   QUOTE (captb @ Jan 21, 2010 - 8:08 P...   Jan 21, 2010 - 8:50 PM
|- - davidfang   QUOTE (captb @ Jan 21, 2010 - 8:08 P...   Jan 22, 2010 - 11:37 AM
- - b1gr3d   QUOTE (captb @ Jan 21, 2010 - 6:08 P...   Jan 22, 2010 - 12:00 PM
|- - davidfang   QUOTE (b1gr3d @ Jan 22, 2010 - 12:00...   Jan 22, 2010 - 12:05 PM
|- - captb   QUOTE (b1gr3d @ Jan 22, 2010 - 12:00...   Jan 22, 2010 - 4:48 PM
- - b1gr3d   Lol. That lip. Is isn't it for preface lift?   Jan 22, 2010 - 6:31 PM
|- - captb   QUOTE (b1gr3d @ Jan 22, 2010 - 6:31 ...   Jan 22, 2010 - 9:15 PM
- - b1gr3d   http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1484665/5065235 glass...   Jan 27, 2010 - 10:46 PM
|- - captb   QUOTE (b1gr3d @ Jan 27, 2010 - 11:46...   Jan 28, 2010 - 3:13 AM
- - captb   i dont get to work on her much but this is how she...   Mar 25, 2010 - 8:05 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Props on being innovative enough to mold a lip, ma...   Mar 25, 2010 - 8:18 PM
- - captb   i seriously did my homework on plastic welding. im...   Mar 25, 2010 - 9:03 PM
- - captb   how bout some input. do you think it needs a grill...   Mar 25, 2010 - 9:58 PM
- - 808celica   you might wanna reconsider the front markers. Its ...   Mar 26, 2010 - 1:49 AM
|- - captb   QUOTE (808celica @ Mar 25, 2010 - 8...   Mar 26, 2010 - 3:17 AM
- - 808celica   turn signals and front marker/sidemarkers are diff...   Mar 26, 2010 - 6:37 AM
|- - captb   QUOTE (808celica @ Mar 26, 2010 - 1...   Apr 1, 2010 - 5:27 AM
- - captb   ok, the indicator problem is solved now back to bo...   Apr 15, 2010 - 4:41 AM
- - b1gr3d   I will get more in depth later buy in short- sound...   Apr 15, 2010 - 5:00 PM
|- - captb   Thanks. id appreciate if you could clarify later. ...   Apr 15, 2010 - 5:18 PM
- - b1gr3d   I will get more in depth later but in short- sound...   Apr 15, 2010 - 6:34 PM
- - captb   looky what i did today.. and yes.. that is c...   May 27, 2010 - 12:01 AM


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