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post Feb 7, 2010 - 2:18 PM
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hey guys, i was jw is there a difference between red top and black top beams? are they all the same engine with the same specs? is there a certain gen beams thats better then another or is there even different gen beams? lol and would it bult up on a 5s 5speed tranny? im guessing yes


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post Mar 9, 2010 - 5:14 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Mar 9, 2010 - 4:31 PM) *
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oh no, traitor...

BEAMS is sexier. LOL, thats ok, i may buy that beams i showed you if still available.



The idea of owning one is better than the reality, it seems.



really depends on goals.



Whats the goal? To have a slow car?
Those things put down MAYBE 170hp at the wheels. Thats really nothing amazing.

I do agree that they are "cool" because they are rare and come with a red valve cover and a catchy name, but if you want more power out of a 4cyl motor, you're going to want a turbo charged engine.


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post Mar 9, 2010 - 7:24 PM
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QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 9, 2010 - 4:14 PM) *
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Mar 9, 2010 - 4:31 PM) *
QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 9, 2010 - 11:07 AM) *
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Mar 9, 2010 - 3:02 AM) *
oh no, traitor...

BEAMS is sexier. LOL, thats ok, i may buy that beams i showed you if still available.



The idea of owning one is better than the reality, it seems.



really depends on goals.



Whats the goal? To have a slow car?
Those things put down MAYBE 170hp at the wheels. Thats really nothing amazing.

I do agree that they are "cool" because they are rare and come with a red valve cover and a catchy name, but if you want more power out of a 4cyl motor, you're going to want a turbo charged engine.


My goal was to be able to do a swap by myself, with no help, and complete. I knew nothing about cars, now i do some.

Why does everybody think that everybody's goal is to do 300 hp.

Slow car yes, but you got to learn somewhere, not everybody gets high with turbo. I wanted to learn and i did, maybe in the future, i may get a turbo car, but for now i have achieved what so many talk about, and never do

I have nearly Completed a swap. With no help, and Im happy, actions are bigger than words.

Yes i have a slow sexy car, but that is what i want for now.

Some people like it some dont, I dont care, i can have anything i want, and I chose wisely for now...

And don take this the wrong way, you know more than i would ever know about cars, and i respect that, but please dont downgrade my accomplishment. To me its amazing, what i have done and that I never tought about quitting in a single moment.

end of rant. LOL

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post Mar 9, 2010 - 7:31 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Mar 9, 2010 - 7:24 PM) *
Why does everybody think that everybody's goal is to do 300 hp.


That.

I've been in two 3S-GTE swapped Celicas, and both rides were amazing. The engine is a beast, much more so than I ever expected. However, it's not for me. Too many different factors involved in swapping (however, those factors are extremely well documented) and let's face it, the 3S-GTE swap is very, very common now. IF I were to swap, I would strongly consider a BEAMS or 4A-GZE. However, I'm pretty sure I'm set on a 7A-FTE setup.

There are ridiculously nice 3S-GTE swapped Celicas, ridiculously nice Celicas that carry an OEM engine with aftermarket turbocharging. The main point is, do what you want and what makes you happy.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Mar 9, 2010 - 7:38 PM


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- Ted95   Beams question   Feb 7, 2010 - 2:18 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Redtop has VVT-i, and is actually the only BEAMS. ...   Feb 7, 2010 - 2:20 PM
|- - nics   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Feb 7, 2010 - 11...   Feb 7, 2010 - 2:47 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (nics @ Feb 7, 2010 - 2:47 PM)...   Feb 7, 2010 - 2:49 PM
- - Ted95   oh alright, see i didnt kno that.. and vvti acts a...   Feb 7, 2010 - 2:22 PM
- - Ted95   well wait idk if i believe that, bc i just seen a ...   Feb 7, 2010 - 2:26 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Later gen 3S-GE's got VVT-i, but I know for a ...   Feb 7, 2010 - 2:29 PM
- - Ted95   ahh got ya.. but it does bolt up to a 5s tranny r...   Feb 7, 2010 - 2:31 PM
- - nics   here, read through. http://www.beams-redtop.com/i...   Feb 7, 2010 - 2:57 PM
- - Ted95   nice cool, thanks bro   Feb 7, 2010 - 3:00 PM
- - nics   you're welcome   Feb 7, 2010 - 3:05 PM
- - SwissFerdi   <--- ownt. Appreciate the clarification nics.   Feb 7, 2010 - 3:06 PM
|- - nics   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Feb 7, 2010 - 12...   Feb 7, 2010 - 3:15 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   guys guys you got it all wrong Celica ST202 has ...   Feb 7, 2010 - 5:36 PM
- - nics   ^^huh? let me know what did i say wrong?   Feb 7, 2010 - 6:41 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (nics @ Feb 7, 2010 - 6:41 PM)...   Feb 7, 2010 - 7:23 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (nics @ Feb 7, 2010 - 7:41 PM)...   Feb 7, 2010 - 7:34 PM
- - nics   and gray top comes in auto for rav4 right?   Feb 7, 2010 - 7:44 PM
- - Rusty   QUOTE is there a difference between red top and bl...   Feb 7, 2010 - 11:22 PM
- - Ted95   is there a aftermarket header for the retop beams?...   Feb 8, 2010 - 12:11 PM
- - Tony-B   Aftermarket parts for the red top Beams are hard e...   Feb 8, 2010 - 2:59 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (Tony-B @ Feb 8, 2010 - 2...   Feb 8, 2010 - 9:24 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   no not all of you. only some nvm sorry for saying ...   Feb 8, 2010 - 5:34 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   nope no header for the 4th gen redtop beams engine...   Feb 8, 2010 - 11:00 PM
|- - pasqual   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Feb 9, 2010 - 12...   Mar 3, 2010 - 1:52 PM
- - Rusty   QUOTE oh alright, see i didnt kno that.. and vvti ...   Feb 9, 2010 - 1:34 AM
- - Edophus   The blacktop beams is the best version of the beam...   Feb 9, 2010 - 11:53 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   btw for some of you that think that pheonix header...   Feb 9, 2010 - 2:17 PM
- - Ted95   those are some bada$$ lookin headers, wh...   Feb 9, 2010 - 5:34 PM
- - njccmd2002   we are running out of reds. they are selling like ...   Feb 19, 2010 - 2:52 PM
- - Ted95   can i use the stock GT 5speed shifter box and cone...   Mar 2, 2010 - 10:14 PM
- - Batman722   I drive a Beams and I drive an st205 motor every o...   Mar 2, 2010 - 10:27 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (Batman722 @ Mar 2, 2010 - 10...   Mar 3, 2010 - 4:45 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Ted95 @ Mar 3, 2010 - 4:45 PM...   Mar 6, 2010 - 7:19 AM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 6, 2010 - 7:19...   Mar 6, 2010 - 3:04 PM
- - njccmd2002   nothinig sexier that a reb beams in a black engine...   Mar 3, 2010 - 5:28 PM
- - JuMPiiN   Doesnt the BEAMS engine cost just as much as a 3sg...   Mar 6, 2010 - 4:49 PM
- - njccmd2002   depends. but no almost, but you still have to an...   Mar 7, 2010 - 12:11 AM
- - Batman722   any new thoughts Cam ?   Mar 8, 2010 - 8:48 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (Batman722 @ Mar 8, 2010 - 8:4...   Mar 8, 2010 - 9:26 PM
- - njccmd2002   oh no, traitor... BEAMS is sexier. LOL, thats o...   Mar 9, 2010 - 3:02 AM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Mar 9, 2010 - 3...   Mar 9, 2010 - 6:53 AM
- - presure2   apology accepted.   Mar 9, 2010 - 6:58 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Mar 9, 2010 - 3...   Mar 9, 2010 - 12:07 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 9, 2010 - 11:07 A...   Mar 9, 2010 - 4:31 PM
- - 2bcelica   Yep -- Beams is nice, but it gets old quick and th...   Mar 9, 2010 - 12:16 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (2bcelica @ Mar 9, 2010 - 12:1...   Mar 9, 2010 - 12:53 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Mar 9, 2010 - 4...   Mar 9, 2010 - 5:14 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 9, 2010 - 4:14 PM...   Mar 9, 2010 - 7:24 PM
||- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Mar 9, 2010 - 7...   Mar 9, 2010 - 7:31 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 9, 2010 - 5:14 PM...   Mar 9, 2010 - 7:47 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (hurley97 @ Mar 9, 2010 - 7:47...   Mar 9, 2010 - 8:12 PM
- - Rusty   I agree with you njccmd2002 I for one dont believ...   Mar 9, 2010 - 11:14 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ya well it depends if your a fan of n/a or turbo. ...   Mar 10, 2010 - 12:54 AM
- - Ted95   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Mar 10, 2010 - 12...   Mar 10, 2010 - 3:57 PM


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