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post Mar 9, 2010 - 6:50 PM
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I've been talkin about a 3VZ swap for quite some time now (~3yrs).
I found a fairly decent, non-running, 94 GT last july for $300. Beautiful interior and everything, only a dent in the drivers door, and a broken bumper (which i have a few spares..)
Soo I picked up a manual 92 ES300 a few months ago as a donor car for my swap smile.gif
I've been driving it and good god the motor is a beast. the torque is there 100% of the time - even at 2000 rpm. The intake sounds like a pissed off Porsche. After feeling a 3s swap(DEATH) and driving the lex, i think it should produce about the same results, if not better, stock for stock. now adding the turbo should up my power even more considerably since i have 50% more displacement over the 3s. This motor redlines at 6600 and fuel cuts at 7200rpm, but falls on its face around 5600-5800RPM - comparable to the 7a. I'm thinking a good turbo will alleviate that problem smile.gif i washed the engine recently and somehow killed the AFM so when i swap I'm going megasquirt smile.gif EMS will reduce a lot of clutter in the engine bay and clean up sensors, even making it easier to turbo later. 4BAR map W/ baro correction. biggrin.gif

From Wiki:
"The 1992–1993 engine has 185 hp (138 kW) at 5800 rpm and 189 ft·lbf (256 N·m) at 4600 rpm. 1994+ have 200 hp (149 kW) at 5800 rpm and 204 ft·lbf (277 N·m) at 4600 rpm. There is no mechanical difference in the engine. In an embarrassing move, Toyota inadvertently created an engine competing with the more performance oriented 7M-GE (200 hp) and 2JZ-GE (225 hp) installed in sportier, more luxurious cars of the time. Because of this; the stock ignition timing and fueling was noticeably detuned. The power spread of the 3VZ-FE is wide, having 100% torque between 2500–4600 rpm, with power trailing off by 6000 rpm. Stock redline is 6600 rpm, and the ECU's fuel/ignition cut is 7200 rpm."

"The 3VZ-FE has a larger forged steel crankshaft and large cast rods. They can handle double the stock power output, although forged pistons & rods are recommended. A few nitrous and turbocharged examples match or exceed 450 hp (336 kW) on both the stock engine and engine management with a piggyback chip controlling fuel & ignition."


FOR NON-READERS


Engine:
92 ES300 with 3VZFE
E53 (E153) Transmission && LSD
185HP & 189TQ

Receiving car:
94 White GT
Auto Tranny (not for long..) no longer auto!
Megasquirt EMS
Turbo plans in place

Shopping List:
  1. Shell for swap
  2. 3VZ-FE
  3. E53/E153
  4. Engine rebuild bits
  5. Machine Work
  6. Tranny rebuild bits
  7. ST205 Shift Cables
  8. ST205 Rear Mount
  9. ST204 front/side mounts
  10. Poly inserts
  11. MegaSquirt
  12. Turbo Bits
  13. 3L2 Paint
  14. GT4 front and riser blocks


Bold items need to be bought still






































































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"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH

1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White
1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810
1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD
 
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post Mar 10, 2010 - 10:45 PM
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i believe its about room/piping in the engine bay. fwd usually has more room than rwd. i chose turbo because it offeres more power than just a s/c. its more personal preferences than anything


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"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH

1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White
1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810
1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD

Posts in this topic
- stephen_lee   Progress thread: 3VZ-F(T)E V6 Swap into my 94 GT   Mar 9, 2010 - 6:50 PM
- - Ted95   should be a fun thread to watch, keep us updated...   Mar 9, 2010 - 6:54 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Nice! Pics of the donor car and swap recipient...   Mar 9, 2010 - 7:16 PM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Mar 9, 2010 - 6...   Mar 9, 2010 - 8:10 PM
- - cjh4l22   i'm doubly interested, see if you have any luc...   Mar 9, 2010 - 9:09 PM
- - stephen_lee   Not going TT. I believe a single turbo over/in fro...   Mar 10, 2010 - 8:35 AM
- - spolski07   Victoria isnt a far drive! let me know how thi...   Mar 10, 2010 - 10:10 AM
- - keison2000   [I am definitely going to watch this thread. I pla...   Mar 10, 2010 - 12:33 PM
- - stephen_lee   uploading pics now!   Mar 10, 2010 - 9:45 PM
- - 97celiman   i promise i wont threadjack but i have some questi...   Mar 10, 2010 - 10:36 PM
- - stephen_lee   i believe its about room/piping in the engine bay....   Mar 10, 2010 - 10:45 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   this should be an awesome thread...cant wait   Mar 10, 2010 - 11:16 PM
- - stephen_lee   i cant even wait lol.. so i believe i need: all...   Mar 10, 2010 - 11:22 PM
- - hellsyphon   Good luck with the swap. I look forward to the res...   Mar 11, 2010 - 12:19 AM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (hellsyphon @ Mar 10, 2010 - 11...   Mar 11, 2010 - 8:34 AM
- - stephen_lee   added pics and "shopping list"   Mar 12, 2010 - 1:48 PM
- - cjh4l22   oh i might be able to help you with your shopping ...   Mar 16, 2010 - 12:10 AM
- - stephen_lee   i'll be making some purchases soon   Mar 16, 2010 - 8:32 AM
- - stephen_lee   Bought a few items off my list! took pics of d...   Mar 23, 2010 - 11:02 AM
- - Ted95   any pics of the doner? lol   Mar 23, 2010 - 12:04 PM
|- - stephen_lee   yup! theyre on the first post! QUOTE (Ted...   Mar 23, 2010 - 12:44 PM
|- - Ted95   lol sweet deal... was those pics always there? idk...   Mar 23, 2010 - 12:53 PM
|- - stephen_lee   nahh i just added them QUOTE (Ted95 @ Mar 2...   Mar 23, 2010 - 1:01 PM
|- - Ted95   lol ok juss makin sure i wasnt goin crazy haha.. t...   Mar 23, 2010 - 1:25 PM
- - stephen_lee   5sfe is pulled! pics later   Apr 4, 2010 - 12:23 PM
- - stephen_lee   added more updates/pics to the 1st post. interior...   Apr 25, 2010 - 5:52 PM
- - stephen_lee   picked up some eibach springs - $175.   May 7, 2010 - 5:14 PM
- - EKAn   coming along nicely, pics!   May 8, 2010 - 11:41 AM
- - stephen_lee   i know im going to get flamed for adding 'dead...   May 10, 2010 - 8:59 AM
- - stephen_lee   Bought a set of SS brake lines today!   May 10, 2010 - 2:09 PM
- - eengineer   sweet project! eventhough i don't own a c...   May 10, 2010 - 7:30 PM
|- - stephen_lee   great info! thanks, cause i have no idea on ho...   May 11, 2010 - 2:44 PM
- - stephen_lee   added a link to the swaps costs spreadsheet (ALSO ...   Jun 2, 2010 - 4:38 PM
- - stephen_lee   picked up an AEM wideband for $155 picked up...   Jun 2, 2010 - 4:55 PM
- - stephen_lee   pulling lexus motor tonight/tomorrow. update monda...   Jun 25, 2010 - 12:08 PM
- - stephen_lee   V6 was yankked in about 4hrs yesterday.   Jun 27, 2010 - 10:50 AM
- - richee3   Good progress. This swap should be done in no time...   Jun 27, 2010 - 5:18 PM
- - stephen_lee   just bought a LSD for this beast   Jun 30, 2010 - 12:47 PM
- - stephen_lee   pulled the wiring harness off, and the tranny off....   Jul 3, 2010 - 7:06 PM
- - D-Man   I'm comming out soon! Rather i gotta steal...   Jul 3, 2010 - 8:27 PM
- - stephen_lee   tore tranny apart and ordered repair parts. cost m...   Jul 13, 2010 - 4:14 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jul 13, 2010 - 5...   Jul 14, 2010 - 9:18 PM
- - stephen_lee   pulled tranny apart, cleaned her up. polished and ...   Jul 18, 2010 - 9:18 PM
|- - Johnnyny   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jul 18, 2010 - 10...   Jul 18, 2010 - 9:59 PM
- - stephen_lee   any recommendations on where to buy custom pistons...   Aug 11, 2010 - 1:47 PM
- - RockyMountainCelica   To the OP, I know a guy who has SEVERAL of those L...   Aug 13, 2010 - 5:49 PM
- - stephen_lee   v6 is a GREAT swap. ask the 2.5 of us on this site...   Aug 13, 2010 - 6:03 PM
|- - RockyMountainCelica   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Aug 13, 2010 - 6...   Aug 13, 2010 - 6:49 PM
- - cjh4l22   QUOTE (RockyMountainCelica @ Aug 13, 2010 ...   Aug 16, 2010 - 11:08 PM
- - stephen_lee   Saving $$$$ for JE custom forg...   Sep 7, 2010 - 4:58 PM
- - stephen_lee   copy & paste... "The 3vz-fe itself is *h...   Sep 7, 2010 - 8:19 PM
- - cjh4l22   read this toooo. completely agree. awesomeness...   Sep 15, 2010 - 11:12 PM
- - stephen_lee   QUOTE QUOTE I'm really interested in doing a 3...   Sep 27, 2010 - 7:41 AM
- - DEATH   Man I hate this waiting for $$$/Par...   Sep 30, 2010 - 11:05 AM
- - stephen_lee   i may buy axles soon. tranny parts are all ordered...   Sep 30, 2010 - 6:50 PM
- - richee3   Hurry up and swap!   Sep 30, 2010 - 7:22 PM
|- - EKAn   QUOTE (richee3 @ Oct 1, 2010 - 1:22 ...   Oct 4, 2010 - 5:38 PM
- - stephen_lee   man.. i want it now! but funds are slow... but...   Sep 30, 2010 - 7:30 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Sep 30, 2010 - 8...   Oct 3, 2010 - 10:13 PM
- - EKAn   I saw this pic on line and it reminded me of this ...   Oct 10, 2010 - 11:27 AM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (EKAn @ Oct 10, 2010 - 11:27 A...   Oct 11, 2010 - 1:40 PM
- - Johnnyny   cant go wrong with twins!   Oct 11, 2010 - 3:07 PM
- - stephen_lee   twins..   Oct 11, 2010 - 4:35 PM
- - DEATH   proves your downpipe routing doesn't it?   Oct 11, 2010 - 4:42 PM
- - stephen_lee   yea, im thinking something a little different (bet...   Oct 11, 2010 - 4:52 PM
- - stephen_lee   RE: Progress thread: 3VZ-F(T)E V6 Swap into my 94 GT   Oct 11, 2010 - 5:49 PM
- - cjh4l22   almost 2 months, want an update! lol   Dec 8, 2010 - 10:45 PM
- - stephen_lee   waiting on cash for motor rebuild. bought a house ...   Dec 9, 2010 - 11:18 AM
|- - cjh4l22   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Dec 9, 2010 - 11...   Dec 9, 2010 - 6:36 PM
- - presure2   good stuff man, cant wait to see more progress...   Dec 9, 2010 - 7:05 PM
- - Smaay   Stephen why 3VZ over 5VZ...what do you know about ...   Dec 14, 2010 - 1:09 AM
- - stephen_lee   Ordering engine mounts and/or engine management so...   Jan 7, 2011 - 10:23 AM
- - stephen_lee   the 5vz has more torque, but thats about it. the 3...   Jan 7, 2011 - 10:26 AM
- - Smaay   yeah its more torquey, but what makes the 3VZ flow...   Jan 8, 2011 - 2:02 AM
- - delusionz   i dont understand the fascination with st205 shift...   Jan 8, 2011 - 7:13 PM
- - stephen_lee   E series transmissions mount the cables diff than ...   Jan 8, 2011 - 9:49 PM
- - delusionz   ST202 uses an S54 gearbox, ST205 uses an E154F gea...   Jan 9, 2011 - 1:43 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (delusionz @ Jan 9, 2011 - 1:4...   Jan 19, 2011 - 10:04 AM
- - nwizzle   Can you explain a little about how direct the swap...   Jan 18, 2011 - 6:37 PM
- - stephen_lee   depends on what you you want to go. if you want/ha...   Jan 19, 2011 - 9:59 AM
- - Smaay   ok so the over all length of the cables is not an ...   Jan 19, 2011 - 10:19 AM
- - presure2   no, the whole end part of the cable is diffrent. ...   Jan 19, 2011 - 10:22 AM
- - nwizzle   Ah, looked up the 1mz and that sounds about perfec...   Jan 23, 2011 - 1:21 AM
- - stephen_lee   got the ST205 mounts in. now i can start mounting ...   Jan 31, 2011 - 1:31 PM
- - Keiri   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jan 31, 2011 - 1...   Jan 31, 2011 - 2:01 PM
- - keison2000   So what did you do as far as axles go.   Jan 31, 2011 - 5:26 PM
- - stephen_lee   im using the stock lexus inners as they will mount...   Feb 1, 2011 - 9:57 AM
|- - cjh4l22   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Feb 1, 2011 - 9...   Feb 1, 2011 - 12:20 PM
- - stephen_lee   we should move this to projects   Feb 3, 2011 - 10:33 AM
- - stephen_lee   really no different. use an s54, make a PS mount, ...   Feb 3, 2011 - 11:47 AM
- - richee3   Any recent pictures of the project?   Feb 6, 2011 - 4:24 PM
- - stephen_lee   QUOTE If swapping a 3vz into an st instead of a GT...   Feb 17, 2011 - 9:18 AM
- - richee3   Any updates?   Mar 27, 2011 - 9:48 PM
- - stephen_lee   Ready to drop the motor in minus bolting the manif...   Mar 28, 2011 - 7:40 AM
- - 95CelicaST   tittywop. I mean, it's going to all look sim...   Mar 28, 2011 - 10:09 AM
- - stephen_lee   except where it is lol. urs is in an MR2. which ve...   Mar 28, 2011 - 10:26 AM
- - 95CelicaST   1st rev. 1994 ES300.   Mar 28, 2011 - 12:36 PM
- - stephen_lee   admire   Apr 25, 2011 - 3:09 PM
- - yungazzdriver   wow nice.....what color is that? edit** just googl...   Apr 25, 2011 - 3:54 PM
- - Keiri   3L2 :Renaissance Red. I approve Stephen.   Apr 25, 2011 - 4:38 PM
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