 3sgte (2.2L) vs 5sfe 2.2 |
 Mar 25, 2010 - 12:52 AM
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Ok, I am looking at options here for upgrades and I wanted to know if there is even a difference in keeping the 5sfe 2.2 and maybe swapping the head for a 3sgte (Ofcourse turbos are going to be used) to have the 2.2L or is having a 3sgte doing the 2.2L any different? That's what I really would like to know.
This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Mar 25, 2010 - 12:52 AM -------------------- 91 MR2 Turbo SW20, 92 MR2 Turbo SW20, 95 Celica GT ST204
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Mar 29, 2010 - 12:04 AM
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I hope you're not considering this on the train of thought that 2.0 is a downgrade from 2.2. Because a stock 3S-GE or 3S-GTE will both have better power characteristics at any point in the rev range than your 5S-FE.
What your 5S-FE has gained from the extra 200cc, the 3S-GE has gained from high compression and your 3S-GTE has gained from having a very efficient quick spooling CT20b turbo which registers positive pressure from as low as 1500RPM. -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
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Mar 29, 2010 - 7:05 AM
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Mar 29, 2010 - 1:04 AM)  I hope you're not considering this on the train of thought that 2.0 is a downgrade from 2.2. Because a stock 3S-GE or 3S-GTE will both have better power characteristics at any point in the rev range than your 5S-FE. What your 5S-FE has gained from the extra 200cc, the 3S-GE has gained from high compression and your 3S-GTE has gained from having a very efficient quick spooling CT20b turbo which registers positive pressure from as low as 1500RPM. No, he is strictly talking the bottom end. The forged 2.4L 5sgte is a bit more expensive then the 2.0 or 2.2L 3sgte, but as far as motor builds go...it is isnt terrible. The only down side to the 2.4L 5sgte is that you will have to have ATS do the build, as they are the only company that I am aware of that offer this service. So since you have to have ATS do the build, you will get a motor back that is just as much plug and play to a 3sgte head, as a 3sgte bottom end would be. And if you are putting this into your Mr2 or using anything but an AWD transmission, you wont need to spend the extra money to have the required block work done. If you are using an AWD transmission, you will need to either pay for the required block work to clear the transfer case, and the drilling and tapping of the block for 1 of the AWD support brackets. Having a fully forged 2.4L 5sgte bottom end is as simple as dropping $3000 --------------------
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Random_Stranger 3sgte (2.2L) vs 5sfe 2.2 Mar 25, 2010 - 12:52 AM
SoDo So you are comparing a 5sgte vs a 3sgte stroked to... Mar 25, 2010 - 1:06 AM trdproven theres just a lot extra work and tuning to do a 5s... Mar 25, 2010 - 8:38 AM garin i'd go 3sgte... 3sgte is an already turbo equi... Mar 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM playr158 QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Mar 25, 2010 - ... Mar 25, 2010 - 10:25 AM Smaay 5S-FE does not have squirters! there is more m... Mar 26, 2010 - 2:50 PM _Jim_ It all depends on goals.
Yes a forged 5sfte turbo... Mar 26, 2010 - 3:18 PM
Random_Stranger QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Mar 26, 2010 - 1:18 P... Mar 28, 2010 - 5:53 PM presure2 QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Mar 28, 2010 - ... Mar 28, 2010 - 6:15 PM Random_Stranger QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 28, 2010 - 4:1... Mar 28, 2010 - 6:50 PM bdub215 **** if you want a 2.4 swap a 2az lose weight in t... Mar 28, 2010 - 9:25 PM Random_Stranger QUOTE (bdub215 @ Mar 28, 2010 - 7:25... Mar 28, 2010 - 10:37 PM richee3 The new 4 cylinder Camry has a 2AZ, so does the Sc... Mar 28, 2010 - 11:52 PM SwissFerdi QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Mar 29, 2010 - 8:05 A... Mar 29, 2010 - 9:19 AM Random_Stranger QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Mar 29, 2010 - 5:05 A... Mar 29, 2010 - 12:27 PM MGCustoms325 While you're at it, research the 2gr-fe. In on... Dec 27, 2010 - 3:06 AM aww_shoook_em when swapping the 3SGTE, are you gonna have to get... Jan 7, 2011 - 12:47 PM 95CelicaST No, you can use the stock 5s mounts. A quick peek ... Jan 7, 2011 - 3:30 PM taibones i talked with a shop that mainly deals with toyota... Jan 7, 2011 - 3:40 PM 95CelicaST Better to get a 99 5sfe block and have the crank m... Jan 14, 2011 - 2:39 PM bccentaur3 Or just get 5sfe crower rods no need to machine cr... Jan 14, 2011 - 3:40 PM 95st-celica Honestly if i were you, i would stick with a base ... Jan 14, 2011 - 4:31 PM bccentaur3 That's what time doing with the next build. 3s... Jan 14, 2011 - 5:20 PM |
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