Remote Start Alarm Installation In A Manual Help Needed, Neutral Sensor? Options

[TRD-ST204]

I have a 94 Celica GT and I want to install a remote start alarm. My car is a manual so I don't want it to jump forward if it is accidentally left in gear. I spoke to some people who installed alarms and the tell me that some manual cars have a neutral sensor that can be tapped into that is connected to the ECU. Seeing that my car is a 94 I don't think that we have anything like that in our cars. So I am I right or wrong? Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by TRD-ST204: Apr 19, 2010 - 11:27 PM

[schmooot]

OK I have to clear up a few things here. I've seen this type of thread a few times and most people seem to have no idea when it comes to this stuff so listen closely. You CAN install a remote start module in a manual transmission vehicle, it just has to be made for a manual transmission vehicle! People get into trouble when they install the correct one the wrong way (there are certain safety features/wires which must be hooked up), or they install the wrong one.



I have a remote start on two of my manual vehicles and there is no way to remote start them in gear because I have wires them correctly

Here is how they work

The module is tied in to the following things:
ebrake (so the module knows when the parking brake is applied)
brake pedal
clutch bypass switch (so it can start without the clutch being depressed)
door triggers (very important)

and the other standard stuff like tach signal and ignition wires.

First every time I wish to remote start my truck the module needs to be sure the truck is in neutral. You know how in an auto with a remote start you can push the button while the car is running and the module then takes over...then you can turn the key off and get out and the car stays running? Well in a manual you need to do the same thing...then the box is in ready mode.

Let me explain it a little better.

I drive my truck into the driveway and park, then I put it in neutral, pull the e-brake and push the button on my remote, the module has just taken
over running the truck. I can now turn the key off and take it out (truck is still running). Now I get out and close the door. At this point the module knows 3 things: the doors are closed, the e-brake is on, the truck is still in neutral (obviously because it is still running). When I push the button on the remote again the truck turns off. Now it is in "ready mode" and any time from this point on the truck will start when I push the button because the module knows it is not in gear. If I were to come out ten minutes later and open the door/hood/trunk the lights flash and the module turns "ready mode" off because it no longer is sure the truck is in neutral. I the have to get in, start the truck and redo the entire procedure if I wish to use the feature again.

It sounds like a lot but it is kind of routine. In the winter when I know I wish to remote start the next morning I take the extra few seconds to put the truck in "ready mode" before going inside..then it starts the next morning. If I neglect to do this I just have to live with a cold truck.

[KAOS]

OK I have to clear up a few things here. I've seen this type of thread a few times and most people seem to have no idea when it comes to this stuff so listen closely. You CAN install a remote start module in a manual transmission vehicle, it just has to be made for a manual transmission vehicle! People get into trouble when they install the correct one the wrong way (there are certain safety features/wires which must be hooked up), or they install the wrong one.



I have a remote start on two of my manual vehicles and there is no way to remote start them in gear because I have wires them correctly

Here is how they work

The module is tied in to the following things:
ebrake (so the module knows when the parking brake is applied)
brake pedal
clutch bypass switch (so it can start without the clutch being depressed)
door triggers (very important)

and the other standard stuff like tach signal and ignition wires.

First every time I wish to remote start my truck the module needs to be sure the truck is in neutral. You know how in an auto with a remote start you can push the button while the car is running and the module then takes over...then you can turn the key off and get out and the car stays running? Well in a manual you need to do the same thing...then the box is in ready mode.

Let me explain it a little better.

I drive my truck into the driveway and park, then I put it in neutral, pull the e-brake and push the button on my remote, the module has just taken
over running the truck. I can now turn the key off and take it out (truck is still running). Now I get out and close the door. At this point the module knows 3 things: the doors are closed, the e-brake is on, the truck is still in neutral (obviously because it is still running). When I push the button on the remote again the truck turns off. Now it is in "ready mode" and any time from this point on the truck will start when I push the button because the module knows it is not in gear. If I were to come out ten minutes later and open the door/hood/trunk the lights flash and the module turns "ready mode" off because it no longer is sure the truck is in neutral. I the have to get in, start the truck and redo the entire procedure if I wish to use the feature again.

It sounds like a lot but it is kind of routine. In the winter when I know I wish to remote start the next morning I take the extra few seconds to put the truck in "ready mode" before going inside..then it starts the next morning. If I neglect to do this I just have to live with a cold truck.

The command start on my Celica GT-S works exactly the same way; I've never had issues with it.

Just have to be smart about it I guess...