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post Jan 6, 2004 - 9:35 PM
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Ok, I have set my power goal for my 7a at 200 hp at the wheels.

Now the question is, how?

The obvious answer from most is 'slap on a turbo.' but that's not what I want to hear.

I am going to re-build my engine soon. Here is my plan:

Re-build enging to brand ,new stock condition + a 1.8-2.0mm head gasket to lower compression a hair. Then, underdrive pully, and retard the timing a hair with adjustable cam gears for a 'rolla. Turbocharger +large FMIC and about ten pounds of boost.(maybe up to 14psi).

I have also thought about calling up jet and having the rev-limiter on my car raised up to 6500-6800. What do you guys think about that?

So, with proper tuning and electronics, what kind of power output do yall think I'd get? I have seen turbo 7a's pulling 170ish, So I have high hopes.

keep in mind I am thinking outloud here so...

Thanks for reading.

Jon
 
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post Jan 6, 2004 - 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 6, 2004 - 9:12 PM)
Where would I find forged pistons that I wouldn't need custom rods?

That was my big problem. Forged pistons cost, but not nearly as much as custom rods...

And I figure a supra fuel pump would work, if I can't get a nice aftermarket unit cheap.

Also, I have heard the 7a head makes the engine smoke a little under boost. Any suggestions other than the re-build? I actually thought about a 4a head swap,but the wiring and manifold set up would be a pain.

fuel pump i reccomd is a walbro 255lph unit... i recently learned theres 2 versions out there but im not positive on the differences... either way u get a good pump for under 100 shipped.

i was told 4ag pistons will fit, so u need custom rods. call different companys and see what they can do.. yes i called, its expensive and the usually want a deposit.. boost is expensive period. custom pistons are the same.. expensive but call around, theres companys that will do it.

the smoking caused underboost is a problem that is made or fixed by different things... my 7a smoked a little due to a oil return problem... simple fixed by making sure it was shorter to increase oil flow back to the oil pan smoother....2nd was my PCV system.. under non-boost conditions the stock motor was only vacuum, causing -pressure in the crank at all times, but underboost the pvc would lock which is good, but the other hose to the right would let pressure through to the crankcase makeing positive pressure there, and also causing the pcv valve itself to fail.... causing hell to the motor... liquids do not compress so u can at wose get bent valves in the head..im sure more can happen... i found on the internet a PCV that can withstand 130psi without failure, and is dyno proven (4hp more) to give the pistonrings a better seal. i posted it before in celica.net with no opinions, bought it but the motor blewup before i got to try it.. i still look at it to be my "holy grail" to my PCV problems...

btw: once oil is coming out of the valve cover, where the pcv or breather is, its too late. new pistons,rings, landrings will be needed. tongue.gif

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- FallenHero   Power from 7a   Jan 6, 2004 - 9:35 PM
- - Coomer   Sounds like a good plan, and I think you should be...   Jan 6, 2004 - 9:56 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   Good stuff, like coomer said running 10-14 pounds ...   Jan 6, 2004 - 10:21 PM
- - zipstrips   200hp is a good atainable number. but stock intren...   Jan 6, 2004 - 10:58 PM
- - FallenHero   Where would I find forged pistons that I wouldn...   Jan 6, 2004 - 11:12 PM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 6, 2004 - 9:12 PM) Where w...   Jan 6, 2004 - 11:26 PM
- - 97sccelica   i think crower does custom rods for $700 use...   Jan 7, 2004 - 1:28 AM
- - doGGy   4A-GZE low comp pistons will fit to your 7A rods w...   Jan 7, 2004 - 4:23 AM
- - SpedToe169   Doggy is right. I would highly recommend the e-ma...   Jan 7, 2004 - 9:43 AM
- - FallenHero   Don't worry, those two books are the first two...   Jan 7, 2004 - 11:14 AM
- - 97sccelica   the torque converter would not be the weak part of...   Jan 7, 2004 - 12:20 PM
- - SpedToe169   Arias does great work. The GZE pistons should fit...   Jan 7, 2004 - 12:49 PM
- - RedSunCelica   Dang i though i was the only person crazy enough t...   Jan 7, 2004 - 7:26 PM
- - FallenHero   Na? you must want some CRAZY compression! An...   Jan 7, 2004 - 11:08 PM
- - aaronc222   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 7, 2004 - 9:08 PM) Thanks ...   Jan 8, 2004 - 1:01 AM
- - 5sfeTurbo   yea the TC is a great idea but the re-built tranny...   Jan 8, 2004 - 1:07 AM
- - FallenHero   Yea, I found the web page with Ask.com My main re...   Jan 8, 2004 - 1:29 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 7, 2004 - 10:29 PM) Yea, I...   Jan 8, 2004 - 3:24 AM
- - SpedToe169   QUOTE My main reasoning was this: If atmospheric p...   Jan 8, 2004 - 9:54 AM
- - FallenHero   lol, they said that 14psi doubled power a while ba...   Jan 8, 2004 - 10:37 PM
- - BigEdge169   that looks really awesome, but I think they way ov...   Jan 9, 2004 - 12:04 AM
- - SpedToe169   12psi should be ok with gze pistons if you are car...   Jan 9, 2004 - 9:37 AM
- - FallenHero   ha, hopefully I will know what I'm doing by th...   Jan 9, 2004 - 11:21 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (RedSunCelica @ Jan 8, 2004 - 12:26 AM)...   Jan 9, 2004 - 2:51 PM
- - Digndoug   ok to all that are looking for real power out here...   Jan 9, 2004 - 7:02 PM
- - FallenHero   because our cars look better, and are more fun. P...   Jan 9, 2004 - 10:40 PM
- - BigEdge169   and a challenge is way more fun also, I'd rat...   Jan 10, 2004 - 12:35 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 9, 2004 - 7:40 PM) because...   Jan 10, 2004 - 2:26 AM
- - DustyBurns30   yeah, my bros got a mustang gt and he gets all 5.0...   Jan 10, 2004 - 1:23 PM
- - FallenHero   Well, the main reason I havn'tsold my car is b...   Jan 11, 2004 - 4:03 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 11, 2004 - 2:03 PM) My d...   Jan 11, 2004 - 5:12 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 11, 2004 - 1:03 PM) My dad...   Jan 11, 2004 - 8:50 PM
- - BigEdge169   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Jan 11, 2004 - 7:50 PM)it...   Jan 11, 2004 - 9:56 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (BigEdge169 @ Jan 11, 2004 - 6:56 PM) QUOTE ...   Jan 11, 2004 - 10:00 PM
- - FallenHero   How much does it cost to have a 100k mile tune up?   Jan 11, 2004 - 10:54 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 11, 2004 - 7:54 PM) How mu...   Jan 11, 2004 - 11:48 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   What does a tune up consist of?   Jan 11, 2004 - 11:56 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ Jan 11, 2004 - 8:56 PM) What do...   Jan 12, 2004 - 12:00 AM
- - FallenHero   well,I was thinking more along the lines of the en...   Jan 12, 2004 - 12:19 AM


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