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post Apr 6, 2010 - 11:02 PM
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ZGear



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Hello, my name is Ger aka ZGear from the Mid-West. Haven't really responded to this forum in all the years I've joined. Though I have supported this site in Minnesota with my 6gc passion.

My initial plans were to save up and buy a blacktop 4a, but in doing so I managed to come across a good deal on a 1st gen 3sgte locally. Whole motor without tranny and a few extra parts for a shiny nickel.

My car, stock as ever for about 5 years.



Then an exterior renovation in 2007



Also an engine face lift



This is how she sat for half a year with a case of bad crank bearing.



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Now for the good stuff:

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BCCentaur and associates: "Blizzard Tuning"



Sorry, wasn't able to do the signature Dr. Tweak pose..... frown.gif, but it is shiny!
Not shown: deleted AC, power steering, and egr.



7afe Part-out time!



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What will be going in........ Da Da Dum Dum



1st Gen 3sgte with a TRD low comp head gasket. Comes with a 6GC converted harness for a GT, now all I need is motor mounts, tranny, intercooler, bov, downpipe, seals, etc......

This will be my first turbo motor and a good learning experience before I play with the big boys. I'll try to update along with the progression.


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post Jun 18, 2010 - 12:53 PM
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Good luck with it, brother. No worries about the 3S being a GEN1. smile.gif When you replace internals, turbo, and supporting mods, it's all fair game. Hell, I'm worried about my GEN3. I keep reading everywhere how the block is weaker than the previous generations. I compared them and it's indeed thinner. I've read how it cannot hold 600 HP before cracking (seems like BS to me, though), which is my goal and all my mods except the turbo are capable of much more than that.

Are you leaving yours stock?


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Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress
QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM) *
I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
post Jun 22, 2010 - 12:42 AM
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QUOTE (OOBE @ Jun 18, 2010 - 10:53 AM) *
Good luck with it, brother. No worries about the 3S being a GEN1. smile.gif When you replace internals, turbo, and supporting mods, it's all fair game. Hell, I'm worried about my GEN3. I keep reading everywhere how the block is weaker than the previous generations. I compared them and it's indeed thinner. I've read how it cannot hold 600 HP before cracking (seems like BS to me, though), which is my goal and all my mods except the turbo are capable of much more than that.

Are you leaving yours stock?


Thanks for your kind words. I've been beat up years after years about how I kept saying that the 7afe was a great motor. I literally pushed my motor for the past 7 years and then 2 years ago with bolt-ons it finally gave way. With decent maintenance the 7afe is like an old dog hanging on with it's life. It's common sense that the 7afe is not good with straights, but it's fair games around the twisties. Like my buddy Lou always saying, it's a stock car with a driver mod.

So now going to the 3sgte, and chosen a 1st gen, I've had people telling me why not a 2nd gen. I love the 7afe and I know I will love a motor with 100 more horsepower, plain and simple, and also it was a deal I couldn't pass up. I've considered to run stock for atleast 6 months and see if any gremlins shows up. I'm just trying to get the motor up and running and don't wanna spend extra dollars just to find that the motor is bad on the first start-up. It'll just be a good tune-up.


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Posts in this topic
- ZGear   Poorman's 3S swap   Apr 6, 2010 - 11:02 PM
- - enderswift   cool stuff man. gonna be interesting to see how th...   Apr 6, 2010 - 11:18 PM
- - ZGear   Lower horse power rating at about 190-210, what a ...   Apr 6, 2010 - 11:45 PM
- - Nartanian   Niiice! I look forward to this.   Apr 7, 2010 - 7:57 AM
- - 1Bryce1   lol i got 3 of those engines in my shop if you nee...   Apr 8, 2010 - 6:03 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (1Bryce1 @ Apr 8, 2010 - 4:03 ...   Apr 8, 2010 - 7:41 PM
|- - 1Bryce1   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Apr 8, 2010 - 8:4...   May 4, 2010 - 4:09 PM
- - bccentaur3   He will more than likely need the oil cooler stuff...   Apr 8, 2010 - 11:33 PM
- - rjbibeau   i think i know who u got the motor from...did it c...   Apr 9, 2010 - 12:01 AM
- - bccentaur3   Nope a red one.   Apr 9, 2010 - 7:39 AM
- - Nartanian   So what are the goals power wise?   Apr 11, 2010 - 8:59 PM
- - ZGear   The stock 200 hp is good DD power for me, maybe 22...   Apr 11, 2010 - 9:14 PM
- - Nartanian   500whp or bust   Apr 11, 2010 - 9:33 PM
- - EKAn   RE: Poorman's 3S swap   Apr 11, 2010 - 10:42 PM
- - ZGear   This past weekend has been glorious. Although the ...   May 3, 2010 - 10:42 PM
- - bccentaur3   Just beautiful. All that is missing is the Doctor ...   May 3, 2010 - 10:49 PM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   well done!!!!!!..hey when ...   May 4, 2010 - 6:56 PM
- - pagii   dude u guys made my day haha cant believe there is...   Jun 17, 2010 - 12:52 AM
|- - ZGear   QUOTE (pagii @ Jun 16, 2010 - 10:52 ...   Jun 22, 2010 - 12:14 AM
- - njccmd2002   So who was the owner of the donor car?   Jun 17, 2010 - 8:11 AM
- - bccentaur3   Runnin-Low's buddy I guess. The 2nd gen spu...   Jun 18, 2010 - 11:43 AM
- - SwissFerdi   What did you do with the rear lip, because isn...   Jun 18, 2010 - 12:00 PM
|- - ZGear   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jun 18, 2010 - 10...   Jun 22, 2010 - 12:21 AM
- - OOBE   Good luck with it, brother. No worries about the 3...   Jun 18, 2010 - 12:53 PM
|- - ZGear   QUOTE (OOBE @ Jun 18, 2010 - 10:53 A...   Jun 22, 2010 - 12:42 AM
- - celiracer   No that is a VIS 404 rear lip.. Same as what i hav...   Jun 18, 2010 - 3:26 PM
- - Nartanian   Have you considered stock with some E85? You'l...   Jun 22, 2010 - 10:53 AM
|- - Johnnyny   QUOTE (Nartanian @ Jun 22, 2010 - 11...   Jun 22, 2010 - 11:20 AM
- - Nartanian   Yea, and since he's coming from an ST, he has ...   Jun 22, 2010 - 11:48 AM
- - ZGear   He won't be able to do it on the stock 440 inj...   Jun 22, 2010 - 9:39 PM
- - Nartanian   Oh man. Either way still cool build.   Jun 22, 2010 - 10:53 PM
- - cheela   glad to see some mid-west members in here. nice b...   Jun 22, 2010 - 11:05 PM
- - ZGear   So while I sit back in my chair and realized that ...   Aug 23, 2010 - 11:24 PM
- - Culpable04   radiator go cheap (OEM replacement will do the job...   Aug 24, 2010 - 6:53 AM
- - mak5603   I have an aluminum radiator on my 1st gen 3sgte in...   Aug 24, 2010 - 12:15 PM
- - bccentaur3   Noooooooo Not the ebay water pump.... Anything oth...   Aug 24, 2010 - 7:52 PM
|- - ZGear   Thanks for the input Culp and Mak5603. QUOTE (bcc...   Aug 25, 2010 - 6:48 PM
- - block   can't wait to see the end result, looks like a...   Aug 24, 2010 - 9:40 PM
- - bccentaur3   Better safe than sorry brothaman.   Aug 26, 2010 - 12:02 AM


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