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post Jun 14, 2010 - 4:43 PM
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so ive been wantin to get a short shifter for my car and i want to see everyone elses so i can get an idea of what its gonna look like! so i wanna see who has the shortest short shifter!
 
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post Jun 22, 2010 - 7:50 PM
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QUOTE (synyster37 @ Jun 14, 2010 - 4:43 PM) *
so ive been wantin to get a short shifter for my car and i want to see everyone elses so i can get an idea of what its gonna look like! so i wanna see who has the shortest short shifter!


notice, he basically said he wants the look of a short shifter. he doesn't want function, only form.

i do agree with the rest of the guys that cutting the stock shifter shorter makes little to no difference in terms of performance. For me, the aftermarket short shifter made the most dramatic difference on how the car feels. it put a bigger smile on my face than my anti-roll bar.

as for the picture showing the selector stick when cut short (looks like about 30%?), notice that it still takes a great amount of travel between gears. not much of a difference.

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post Jun 22, 2010 - 8:25 PM
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QUOTE (VieT9sD @ Jun 22, 2010 - 8:50 PM) *
QUOTE (synyster37 @ Jun 14, 2010 - 4:43 PM) *
so ive been wantin to get a short shifter for my car and i want to see everyone elses so i can get an idea of what its gonna look like! so i wanna see who has the shortest short shifter!


notice, he basically said he wants the look of a short shifter. he doesn't want function, only form.

i do agree with the rest of the guys that cutting the stock shifter shorter makes little to no difference in terms of performance. For me, the aftermarket short shifter made the most dramatic difference on how the car feels. it put a bigger smile on my face than my anti-roll bar.

as for the picture showing the selector stick when cut short (looks like about 30%?), notice that it still takes a great amount of travel between gears. not much of a difference.

aye the picture is not to scale just showing that technically the throw will be shorter with a chopped stick, that is why you can buy "short throw shifters" and "short shifters" shorter throw just means you have to move the selector less, most "short shifters" are actually only "short throw shifter" wrongly labelled,

a proper short shifter (or a quick shifter) will require a totally different set up to pull the cables correctly. if for instance, you just installed a shifter that was shortened at both ends (above and below the pivot ball) the cable being moved by the bottom stick would not engage the gear at the gearbox end, it would be like when you change gear but you don't push it right in release the clutch and you hear the teeth in the box grind for a second then the selector drops back into neutral,

stick chopping has been done numerous times on this side of the Atlantic by many people and it does work. even the TRD quick shift (also badly labelled) are just shortened/redesigned top ends (above the pivot) of the selectors, the bottom stick under the pivot remains unchanged

take a shop bought "short shifter" and take a standard/stock one and measure the stick below the pivot it should be the same length if not then you are going to totally mess your gear changes

This post has been edited by Tom_SS2: Jun 22, 2010 - 8:26 PM


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- synyster37   short shifters!!!   Jun 14, 2010 - 4:43 PM
- - azn87   in some cases the (shortest) short shifter isn...   Jun 14, 2010 - 4:57 PM
|- - synyster37   QUOTE (azn87 @ Jun 14, 2010 - 4:57 P...   Jun 14, 2010 - 5:46 PM
|- - nics   QUOTE (synyster37 @ Jun 14, 2010 - 3...   Jun 14, 2010 - 5:48 PM
- - azn87   also there is more of a chance to mis-shift due to...   Jun 14, 2010 - 6:34 PM
|- - nics   QUOTE (azn87 @ Jun 14, 2010 - 4:34 P...   Jun 14, 2010 - 6:48 PM
- - synyster37   i can see what your sayin about the shorter throw,...   Jun 14, 2010 - 8:11 PM
|- - nics   QUOTE (synyster37 @ Jun 14, 2010 - 6...   Jun 14, 2010 - 9:35 PM
|- - HectortheRican   QUOTE (nics @ Jun 14, 2010 - 9:35 PM...   Jun 15, 2010 - 4:03 PM
- - richee3   Means you'll try to put the car in the wrong g...   Jun 14, 2010 - 8:29 PM
- - azn87   eactly so for-say ur racing on the drag stip and ...   Jun 14, 2010 - 8:51 PM
- - mak5603   You want "Quicker" shifts, not necessari...   Jun 15, 2010 - 1:31 PM
- - azn87   here is a mis-shift if u listen closly u can hear ...   Jun 15, 2010 - 11:11 PM
- - sunwukongg   QUOTE (synyster37 @ Jun 14, 2010 - 5...   Jun 16, 2010 - 12:08 AM
- - nics   RE: short shifters!!!   Jun 16, 2010 - 12:17 AM
|- - Johnnyny   QUOTE (nics @ Jun 16, 2010 - 1:17 AM...   Jun 20, 2010 - 5:52 PM
|- - nics   QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Jun 20, 2010 - 3:5...   Jun 21, 2010 - 12:44 AM
|- - Johnnyny   QUOTE (nics @ Jun 21, 2010 - 1:44 AM...   Jun 21, 2010 - 1:01 AM
- - Malek   7th gen short shifter   Jun 20, 2010 - 1:52 PM
- - KAOS   This is a custom 7th Gen Short shifter kit install...   Jun 21, 2010 - 3:24 PM
- - synyster37   so after doing some research and stuff i decided t...   Jun 22, 2010 - 2:44 PM
|- - KAOS   QUOTE (synyster37 @ Jun 22, 2010 - 1...   Jun 22, 2010 - 3:07 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Hahaha. You hacked the stock one. Worst. Mod. Ever...   Jun 22, 2010 - 3:53 PM
- - nics   wtf?? its like cutting stock springs!!...   Jun 22, 2010 - 4:36 PM
- - synyster37   have you guys never seen anyone cut down the stock...   Jun 22, 2010 - 4:54 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Wrong. It takes just as long because the pivot poi...   Jun 22, 2010 - 5:13 PM
|- - synyster37   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Jun 22, 2010 - 6...   Jun 22, 2010 - 6:16 PM
|- - KAOS   QUOTE (synyster37 @ Jun 22, 2010 - 5...   Jun 22, 2010 - 6:24 PM
- - Dyran   My mate did this on his Trueno lol, It makes it lo...   Jun 22, 2010 - 6:08 PM
- - KAOS   I had stumbled on that one too. I'm on my iP...   Jun 22, 2010 - 6:15 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Sweet Jesus. I can't believe you're going ...   Jun 22, 2010 - 6:57 PM
- - Tom_SS2   the way to make short shifter as shown in the 6GC ...   Jun 22, 2010 - 7:24 PM
- - VieT9sD   QUOTE (synyster37 @ Jun 14, 2010 - 4...   Jun 22, 2010 - 7:50 PM
|- - Tom_SS2   QUOTE (VieT9sD @ Jun 22, 2010 - 8:50...   Jun 22, 2010 - 8:25 PM
- - VieT9sD   The desired effect of a short shifter is to reduce...   Jun 22, 2010 - 9:48 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Visual aid: Looking at a short shifter this wa...   Jun 23, 2010 - 12:41 AM
- - Tom_SS2   95CelicaST; because the angle is the same the dist...   Jun 23, 2010 - 4:27 AM
- - KAOS   The actual TRD QuickShift kit is taller than the s...   Jun 23, 2010 - 9:26 AM
- - KAOS   Ok; heres a better example... I know its not exact...   Jun 23, 2010 - 9:54 AM
- - Tom_SS2   having a longer lower shaft works on the lines of ...   Jun 23, 2010 - 11:30 AM
- - KAOS   Well - the nice thing about the TRD kit is you don...   Jun 23, 2010 - 11:44 AM
- - 95CelicaST   I've driven a 6th Gen with the 7th Gen shifter...   Jun 23, 2010 - 12:09 PM
- - Tom_SS2   you driven them right hand drive (JDM/UK) the stic...   Jun 23, 2010 - 1:32 PM


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