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post Dec 27, 2008 - 5:10 AM
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Hi, after over a year of gathering parts my Celica finally is in the garage and gets her custom header, exhaust and some other stuff.
Yesterday we fitted the big Evo9 intercooler, i had to get the ST205 crash bar because the stock one is to tight, intercooler piping was done too and i'm very happy with it. I will use the stock ST205 air filter box, since there is not much space between the filter box and the engine, the IC piping is a little bit tricky but it looks like we found a good route.









The header will be done in the next days.



Short list of parts i'm using:
- Garrett T25 Turbo from a CA18DET
- Mitsubishi EVO 9 Intercooler
- E-manage Ultimate
- Innovate LC-1 Wideband
- ST202 3S-GE Injectors (372ccm)
- ST205 Fuel Pump
- Bosch Blow-Off from a Audi S3
- Custom Header and 3" Exhaust
- dozens of other small parts wink.gif
 
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post Nov 9, 2009 - 3:21 PM
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Interesting. OOBE said that 8 PSI was the max on stock internals. No issues whatsoever though?


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post Nov 9, 2009 - 4:21 PM
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 9, 2009 - 2:21 PM) *
Interesting. OOBE said that 8 PSI was the max on stock internals. No issues whatsoever though?

WTF? I NEVER said that 8 PSI was the max on stock internals. I've had mine to 15 PSI. laugh.gif

The "mechanical engineer" guy was the one that said that. I was the one that broke that myth here years ago about the 7A-FE not being able to handle more than 7 PSI.


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I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
post Nov 9, 2009 - 5:06 PM
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QUOTE (Hafkai @ Nov 9, 2009 - 3:55 PM) *
No issues at all, it depends on the injection and especially the ignition tuning how much a 7A will handle without braking something. I tuned my 7A to run with an afr of 11,5:1 at full boost and retarded the timing a lot. It's absolutely important to watch engine knock while tuning.
8 psi is pretty safe on a good tuned 7A, 10 psi is the max i would give a stock engine over a longer period of time, maybe 12-13 psi with an water injection.
If you want to go higher you have to lower the compression and get some stronger internals...


I do know stronger internals are eventually necessary, I just thought that point was past 8 PSI.

QUOTE (OOBE @ Nov 9, 2009 - 4:21 PM) *
WTF? I NEVER said that 8 PSI was the max on stock internals. I've had mine to 15 PSI. laugh.gif

The "mechanical engineer" guy was the one that said that. I was the one that broke that myth here years ago about the 7A-FE not being able to handle more than 7 PSI.


OOBE, you lied to me! wink.gif Okay, good then. What I'm really looking for is not necessarily a max, but a good point for a DD. What do you run daily?

So both of you guys, push the hell out of your engines so Ferdi has plenty of study material!

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 9, 2009 - 5:06 PM) *
QUOTE (Hafkai @ Nov 9, 2009 - 3:55 PM) *
No issues at all, it depends on the injection and especially the ignition tuning how much a 7A will handle without braking something. I tuned my 7A to run with an afr of 11,5:1 at full boost and retarded the timing a lot. It's absolutely important to watch engine knock while tuning.
8 psi is pretty safe on a good tuned 7A, 10 psi is the max i would give a stock engine over a longer period of time, maybe 12-13 psi with an water injection.
If you want to go higher you have to lower the compression and get some stronger internals...


I do know stronger internals are eventually necessary, I just thought that point was past 8 PSI.

QUOTE (OOBE @ Nov 9, 2009 - 4:21 PM) *
WTF? I NEVER said that 8 PSI was the max on stock internals. I've had mine to 15 PSI. laugh.gif

The "mechanical engineer" guy was the one that said that. I was the one that broke that myth here years ago about the 7A-FE not being able to handle more than 7 PSI.


OOBE, you lied to me! wink.gif Okay, good then. What I'm really looking for is not necessarily a max, but a good point for a DD. What do you run daily?

So both of you guys, push the hell out of your engines so Ferdi has plenty of study material!






Pressure and volume of air are a completely different thing. You can run a small turbo and boost 12, 14, 16psi all day long, yea itll spool up insanely fast. But if you run a bigger turbo and boost 6, 8, 10psi (same power as small turbo boost) it wont spool as fast. Yea that guy that told you that was correct to some extent, that extent is how big or small your turbo is.

I have a 94 st with a newly swapped 95 7afe in it with only 124k miles. 4afe turbo kit sitting up in my room (yes 4afe exhaust and 7afe are the same) just waiting on injectors and fuel pressure regulator and im hiding in my garage for a weekend to install it. Anyone know if brown top (93-96 325cc 2jzge) injectors will work fine? And i need a good piggyback or way of tuning. Any cheap ideas?

Posts in this topic
- Hafkai   7A-FTE made in Germany   Dec 27, 2008 - 5:10 AM
- - Pollux   Nicht schlecht, Herr Specht (Not bad Mr. Woodpecke...   Dec 27, 2008 - 7:24 AM
- - hurley97   Holy hell!!! Is that massive intercool...   Dec 27, 2008 - 4:58 PM
- - malpaso   amazing job...   Dec 27, 2008 - 4:59 PM
- - RickJamesBish   Sieht gut aus. Wie viel kW sind in planung?   Dec 27, 2008 - 5:01 PM
- - Hafkai   QUOTE (Pollux @ Dec 27, 2008 - 1:24 ...   Dec 27, 2008 - 5:51 PM
- - hurley97   I have a small water to air that sits in the bay a...   Dec 28, 2008 - 12:06 PM
- - lagos   most efficient mounting of an intercooler to date....   Dec 28, 2008 - 5:12 PM
- - njccmd2002   that would block the air to the radiator, yes?   Dec 28, 2008 - 7:05 PM
- - enderswift   x2, wont the trackday benefits of the intercooler ...   Dec 28, 2008 - 8:45 PM
- - Batman722   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 28, 2008 - 7...   Dec 29, 2008 - 12:16 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   Plus he has fans... great 7afte build so far...   Dec 29, 2008 - 12:22 AM
- - enderswift   haha you're right, completely forgot about the...   Dec 29, 2008 - 12:53 AM
- - Hafkai   Header is completed and the rest of the exhaust wi...   Jan 4, 2009 - 9:05 AM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Jan 4, 2009 - 9:05 A...   Jan 5, 2009 - 12:18 AM
- - enderswift   thats some CLEAN exhaust work there   Jan 4, 2009 - 2:26 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   awwwww a cat wheres the fun in that?   Jan 4, 2009 - 3:05 PM
- - SpoonR530   Gotta love that German Engineering   Jan 4, 2009 - 9:02 PM
- - Hafkai   I'll try to fit the stock fan on the other sid...   Jan 5, 2009 - 5:19 AM
|- - malpaso   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Jan 5, 2009 - 11:19 ...   Jan 5, 2009 - 5:41 AM
- - Hafkai   Got new pics, there are still some things to do bu...   Jan 16, 2009 - 1:48 PM
- - Sebby   Grat job mate,keep up the good work!!   Jan 16, 2009 - 2:40 PM
- - playr158   Nice work, looks like your project is coming along...   Jan 16, 2009 - 2:49 PM
- - Hafkai   More pics   Jan 17, 2009 - 5:02 PM
- - normality78   i like the way how you fabricate the downpipe hous...   Jan 18, 2009 - 2:34 AM
- - Hafkai   IT'S ALIVE!! Today we finaly got eve...   Jan 19, 2009 - 6:40 PM
- - Hafkai   Dyno video First run with some engine knock becau...   Jan 20, 2009 - 5:11 PM
- - normality78   nice figure...!! cant wait to see full dyn...   Jan 20, 2009 - 9:15 PM
- - normality78   im watching the video but i also notice some knock...   Jan 20, 2009 - 9:24 PM
- - Hafkai   The loud knocking sounds are from the dyno. The ac...   Jan 21, 2009 - 4:54 AM
- - normality78   alright. that's scared me of the loudness. If ...   Jan 21, 2009 - 4:58 AM
- - Hafkai   I finally got the car back and it runs great, the ...   Jan 31, 2009 - 10:39 AM
- - normality78   keep it coming.....   Feb 1, 2009 - 6:37 AM
- - eggman40   man that is a GREAT install, i love how clean you ...   Feb 11, 2009 - 3:50 AM
- - WH95TE   everything looks great. good job   Feb 27, 2009 - 10:48 PM
- - Hafkai   I went to the track yesterday and the engine seems...   Apr 20, 2009 - 4:37 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Apr 20, 2009 - 4:37 ...   Apr 20, 2009 - 5:43 AM
- - Hafkai   Most of the time the egt is between 1300-1600°F bu...   Apr 20, 2009 - 6:31 AM
- - Hafkai   After about 7k miles the engine still runs great, ...   Nov 9, 2009 - 9:25 AM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Nov 9, 2009 - 6:25 A...   Nov 9, 2009 - 5:18 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Awesome man, awesome...this thread is inspiration ...   Nov 9, 2009 - 10:35 AM
|- - Hafkai   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 9, 2009 - 4...   Nov 9, 2009 - 2:50 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Interesting. OOBE said that 8 PSI was the max on s...   Nov 9, 2009 - 3:21 PM
|- - OOBE   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 9, 2009 - 2...   Nov 9, 2009 - 4:21 PM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Nov 9, 2009 - 3:55 P...   Nov 9, 2009 - 5:06 PM
|- - OOBE   Ferdi, With good tuning, 10 PSI on a good size tu...   Nov 9, 2009 - 5:52 PM
||- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (OOBE @ Nov 9, 2009 - 5:52 PM)...   Nov 9, 2009 - 5:58 PM
|- - celica74   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 9, 2009 - 5...   Jun 23, 2010 - 5:57 PM
|- - Hafkai   QUOTE (celica74 @ Jun 24, 2010 - 12...   Jun 25, 2010 - 3:55 AM
|- - celica74   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Jun 25, 2010 - 4:55 ...   Jun 26, 2010 - 9:32 AM
- - Hafkai   No issues at all, it depends on the injection and ...   Nov 9, 2009 - 3:55 PM
- - OOBE   Well, the most important thing is to find a good t...   Nov 9, 2009 - 7:49 PM
- - SwissFerdi   I'd love to find somebody local that knew thei...   Nov 9, 2009 - 8:02 PM
- - OOBE   The spark will go off regardless, and there is no ...   Nov 9, 2009 - 8:46 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Okay. I was just thinking in relation of the pisto...   Nov 9, 2009 - 8:56 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   Detonation would be the the spark igniting the mix...   Nov 9, 2009 - 9:03 PM
|- - Hafkai   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Nov 10, 2009 - 3...   Nov 10, 2009 - 4:58 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   well i ment wayyy before haha...Detonation=heat......   Nov 10, 2009 - 11:33 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Hafkai, another question...you're running the ...   Nov 11, 2009 - 1:07 AM
|- - Hafkai   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 11, 2009 - 7...   Nov 29, 2009 - 2:28 PM
|- - normality78   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Nov 29, 2009 - 2:28 ...   Apr 12, 2010 - 3:28 AM
|- - Hafkai   QUOTE (normality78 @ Apr 12, 2010 - 10...   Apr 15, 2010 - 5:51 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   Ferdi,doc told me he had a 4agze with a c52 and 2...   Nov 11, 2009 - 1:11 AM
- - GMan   > Nov 9, 2009 - 8:02 PM > SwissFerdi ...   Nov 11, 2009 - 10:35 AM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (GMan @ Nov 11, 2009 - 10:35 A...   Nov 11, 2009 - 4:05 PM
- - FunkySR   OOBE, i've only taken 1 degree per psi of boos...   Nov 11, 2009 - 1:56 PM
|- - OOBE   QUOTE (FunkySR @ Nov 11, 2009 - 11:5...   Nov 14, 2009 - 12:22 PM
- - Culpable04   for someone with an EMS on their vehicule and a go...   Nov 12, 2009 - 12:14 PM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Nov 12, 2009 - 12...   Nov 12, 2009 - 12:17 PM
- - Culpable04   Look !   Nov 12, 2009 - 3:56 PM
- - SwissFerdi   That is crazy...I had no idea. This is why I'm...   Nov 12, 2009 - 4:03 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Alright. Well, I guess it is money well spent. I k...   Nov 14, 2009 - 2:33 PM
- - Culpable04   what are the specs ( offset specially ) of your wh...   Nov 30, 2009 - 2:24 PM
- - Hafkai   The wheels are 16x7 ET35, the brake discs are stoc...   Nov 30, 2009 - 3:09 PM
- - Hafkai   Another Autobahn video , this time at about 12psi,...   Dec 5, 2009 - 10:19 AM
- - Hafkai   Got some new injectors.. SARD 650cc/min The rea...   Feb 15, 2010 - 5:27 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Feb 15, 2010 - 5:27 ...   Feb 15, 2010 - 5:31 PM
- - OOBE   Keep us updated, man. I'm no longer in the 7A-...   Feb 15, 2010 - 5:40 PM
- - SwissFerdi   What are the plans for the rebuild?   Apr 15, 2010 - 5:57 PM
|- - Hafkai   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Apr 16, 2010 - 12...   Apr 16, 2010 - 6:08 AM
- - mariosdarkworld   How is the pull with the 650cc injectors? Does tha...   Apr 16, 2010 - 4:26 PM
|- - Hafkai   QUOTE (mariosdarkworld @ Apr 16, 2010 - ...   Jun 6, 2010 - 3:56 PM
- - Hafkai   Today i went to a dyno and i'm really happy wi...   Jun 17, 2010 - 1:25 PM
- - RoyO   Very good results!!   Jun 17, 2010 - 2:07 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Ooooh...upgraded pistons, rods, and new gaskets an...   Jun 25, 2010 - 9:53 AM
- - normality78   Hafkai bro, I've sold my previous 7afte (stock...   Oct 13, 2010 - 4:59 AM
- - Hafkai   Sadly it's to late to push the stock engine to...   Oct 16, 2010 - 7:45 AM
- - malpaso   I had my old 7AFTE tuned to the limits on OEM inte...   Oct 16, 2010 - 11:47 AM
- - Hafkai   After taking the old engine apart i found out that...   Nov 14, 2010 - 4:11 PM
- - Johnnyny   wow that plug looks horrible but im glad ur contin...   Nov 14, 2010 - 5:06 PM
- - Hafkai   The new block is ready and the head just needs to ...   Dec 25, 2010 - 5:50 AM
- - enderswift   i cant wait to see the results   Jan 2, 2011 - 10:47 PM
- - jeffrosie   Been folowing this with great interest. Hope you f...   Jan 3, 2011 - 7:37 AM
- - 97celica_st   Where did you find the forged pistons and rings? a...   Jan 13, 2011 - 9:29 AM
- - Hafkai   You got a PN about the pistons The crankshaft is...   Jan 13, 2011 - 11:40 AM
- - Hafkai   The project is still alive but everything takes mu...   Jul 8, 2011 - 5:29 PM
|- - kurt95gt   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Jul 8, 2011 - 5:29 P...   Dec 5, 2011 - 1:53 PM
|- - RabidTRD   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 5, 2011 - 1:53...   Dec 5, 2011 - 3:30 PM
- - malpaso   Any update?   Dec 5, 2011 - 8:44 AM
- - Hafkai   QUOTE (malpaso @ Dec 5, 2011 - 2:44 ...   Dec 5, 2011 - 3:44 PM
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