celica N.A engine conversion, what engines better Options

[xxFROZENxx]

hey guys im just keen to do a N/A engine swap for my celica.. its a 1995 st204r celica with a 5sfe engine...
out of a 3rd gen 3sge and a beams motor.. what would you guys recommend?

my goal is to bulid my celica as a N/A tune... i want good top end power and beat some honda's.. so which motor is suitable for me?

thanks

[njccmd2002]

why is it always about beating hondas?

The beams is good, not that good. you want to beat hondas put a 3sgte there. Seriously.

[Ted95]

why is it always about beating hondas?

bc everyone has them and builds them and the "honda kids/ppl" think they r king sh!t and that honda rules all... well i beg to differ lol i want to build a nice JDM car thats not a honda and shut the honda kids up with a toyota and show them that you can make goood power from a yota (on the track of corse )

Yup I do have a 3rd gen 3S-GE, making 150WHP atm and goes pretty good.

idk to much about the 3sge but that sounds like some pretty decent numbers from a motor that has around the same specs as a stock 5s ... right? cuz my 5s isnt pushin 150whp all tho i wish it did righ now.. but im swappin a 3s anyway so idc lol

This post has been edited by Ted95: Jul 24, 2010 - 1:54 PM

[Edophus]

if your trying to match the honda type-r for example regardless of which engine, gen 3 or beams you will struggle unless you shed some weight from the car because even if you match them on power the gen 6 still weighs more. Once stripped out my ss3 with beams was faster than some type-r's and not as fast as others but overall was a good match for similarly setup integra's as even though many of them were stripped they had a lot less weight to lose!

as for which engine i think it very much depends on your long and short term goals, and your budget, and of course availability of the engines around you both have pro's/cons.

[Ted95]

if your trying to match the honda type-r for example regardless of which engine, gen 3 or beams you will struggle unless you shed some weight from the car because even if you match them on power the gen 6 still weighs more.

i have a hard time believing that a 3rd gen stripped would lose to a type-r ... they make wat 210hp? the 3rd gen makes 265hp i believe on stock boost. u can turn the boost up and make about 300whp... i think you can beat a type r with a 3rd gen UNstripped no problem... ill have to find out once my 3rd gen goes in.. (on the track of corse lol)