3S-GE ACIS/Beams discussion, Discussion about ACIS, TVIS, VVT-i, etc. applicable to 3S-GE motors |
3S-GE ACIS/Beams discussion, Discussion about ACIS, TVIS, VVT-i, etc. applicable to 3S-GE motors |
Sep 13, 2008 - 11:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
thats alright QUOTE how would i go about modding my ACIS? rather than tell you how to mod it heres a way how not to mod it http://toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t...;highlight=ACIS (also I recommend a new thread for 3SGE ACIS/Beams discussion) I've been playing around with ACIS recently and I've discovered a few things about it, The basics ... when the vacuum diaphragm pulls the throttles, the larger diameter in the corner of the inlet pipes open up (under the lid) for high rpm and when there is no vacuum to pull the throttles are free to return to the constricted low rpm position. A few problems noted with ACIS: 1. When switching between high and low rpm modes, the vacuum diaphragm sometimes get stuck in the high rpm mode 2. The engage point is too late First experiment was to see how the car behaved with the throttle pull lever tied up with cable ties as to lock the throttles in the high rpm position, What I observed with the butt dyno was that under full throttle the rpm range where the car would "suddenly get up and go" was lower down, noticed in terms of road speed 65kph before, 55kph after (2nd gear) so in other words 5000-7000 was the get up and go range, without ACIS constriction in the intake the get up and go range was observed from 4000 to 7000. No loss in acceleration was noticed from idle to 3000 under part throttle, but loss was noticed under full throttle, between 3000 and 4000 I couldn't tell either way in neither part throttle nor full throttle whether ACIS was better in low rpm or high rpm mode.... This suggests to me that 4000 is a better changeover point than 4800 for performance. 4800 is an rpm not reached by normal driving due to speed limits & gear selection thus ACIS seems to exist for the purpose of keeping intake noise down at legal road speeds rather than for improving low rpm torque as midrange torque takes a hit with this setup. My proposed solution on how TO mod the ACIS, is to gutt the vacuum actuator system and replace it with a motorised cable pulling actuator triggered by a frequency switch relay at 4000 rpm the signal could be obtained by the ignitor right behind there. -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
Sep 26, 2010 - 1:01 AM |
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Moderator Joined Nov 5, '07 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Nope they dont.
QUOTE ("BonzaiCelica") From what I've been reading up on the 3S-GE as listed in this thread, all 3S-GE blocks share the same height. this includes 3rd gen, 4th gen and 5th gen right!?? The same height? Thats not what you look at, if your looking at buying some extractors. its the bolt pattern/spacing of the exhaust ports which is the most important part, as njccmd2002 pointed out. As you would remember the 4th Gen 3S-GE BEAMS engines (redtop, blacktop) are a completely different cast to that of the 3rd Gen 3S-GE. QUOTE also I have another source to back this up. http://www.6gc.net/parts/382 sorry, but the info is not correct, it may have been added 10 years ago. also note: No one who owns this part has contributed their thoughts regarding this part yet. just thought I'd add their website in here, for further info. Fujitsubo's website: 3S-GE extrators -ST202 Celica SS-II (5/93 ~ 6/96) -ST202 Celica SS-III (5/93 ~ 6/96) Those details that RHDJapan and Tony-B added speak for themselves. Does not fit the redtop. can I ask what is wrong with the Factory extractors? Because your wanting to spend about US$850 for 1.1KW? The factory extractor type manifolds fitted the 3S-GE and BEAMS 3S-GE are very good. Toyota put some effort into the design and flow of these. I think your better off putting your money towards your BEAMS engine. -------------------- |
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