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post Sep 25, 2010 - 5:53 PM
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I really love my car and plan on keeping it. I don't wanna sell it, never.
It's not something that I plan on doing soon cause I'm broke, but in a few years I will have my real job and I will probably work as a mecanical engineer and I may also have my mecanic's diploma.

I was wondering how difficult it would be to get from Fwd to Rwd? Could I just take the transmition and rear differencial from an Mr2 (which has the same engine which is good!) and I guess probably the cv axles and probably the suspention/steering-related parts like the tie rod ends and stuff and make them fit together and Voila?

I'm not good enoght right now to know what I shall do to do this conversion, but I will eventually go to school after I get my engineer diploma to learn all about mecanics.

(I plan on having a Rwd Celica and a 4wd Gt-Four later. I don't wanna buy a gt-four and convert it to rwd cause this way I would have to buy 2 gt-fours in the end. I'd rather get my Fwd Gts to rwd and then, later, buy a Gt-Four. So please don't tell me to buy a Gt-Four because ''it would be easier to swap'' tongue.gif)

Do you think it would be this ''simple'' or would I need to do a lot more things to get the rear wheels spinning?
I guess a celica would be easier than other cars to convert since there are a lot of bolt-on parts between the celica-mr2-gt4, am I right?

Well, thanks to those who answer me! smile.gif

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post Sep 29, 2010 - 10:25 PM
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Well, I understand exactly where your coming from. I had planned and started to implement a RWD conversion on my 94GT. You can look up my old post if you want some more info. Basically the plan was gut and rebuild. I wanted some real power so I was building a twin turbo LS1. If your going to go through all the trouble of a conversion, why put a 200-300 HP motor in? You could do a Lexus 1uzfe and build that to about 400HP if you want to save some money( that has been installed a 5th gen alltrac before)
As said before you'll have to make room for a transmission. There is already room for a drive shaft because of the shared chassis with GT4. You'll have to figure out a custom suspension and steering set-up. Of course you'll have to reinforce all the cutting your doing, and to support the increase in power and torque forces.

You could order up a rear end from a GT4, which is nice because it pretty much bolts in with a little fab work and it has a Torsen differential. Should be good to about 400HP, maybe more. You would need a custom drive shaft regardless. Another good option is to use the suspension from a Mustang Cobra, because its more robust and the dimensions are pretty close. You'll need a custom fuel tank, as the one you have now is in the way. Fuel cell in the trunk is a good option.

If that sounds like more than your ready to tackle you could take it to a shop that specializes in custom fab vehicles. Most quotes I got were in the 20K-30K range.

Hit me with any questions you have.




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post Sep 30, 2010 - 8:12 PM
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QUOTE (coldbluesteel @ Sep 29, 2010 - 11:25 PM) *
Well, I understand exactly where your coming from. I had planned and started to implement a RWD conversion on my 94GT. You can look up my old post if you want some more info. Basically the plan was gut and rebuild. I wanted some real power so I was building a twin turbo LS1. If your going to go through all the trouble of a conversion, why put a 200-300 HP motor in? You could do a Lexus 1uzfe and build that to about 400HP if you want to save some money( that has been installed a 5th gen alltrac before)
As said before you'll have to make room for a transmission. There is already room for a drive shaft because of the shared chassis with GT4. You'll have to figure out a custom suspension and steering set-up. Of course you'll have to reinforce all the cutting your doing, and to support the increase in power and torque forces.

You could order up a rear end from a GT4, which is nice because it pretty much bolts in with a little fab work and it has a Torsen differential. Should be good to about 400HP, maybe more. You would need a custom drive shaft regardless. Another good option is to use the suspension from a Mustang Cobra, because its more robust and the dimensions are pretty close. You'll need a custom fuel tank, as the one you have now is in the way. Fuel cell in the trunk is a good option.

If that sounds like more than your ready to tackle you could take it to a shop that specializes in custom fab vehicles. Most quotes I got were in the 20K-30K range.

Hit me with any questions you have.


Hmm, thanks man, I sure will come to you if I have questions! But I'm looking to stay as close to OEM as possible (ironical don't you think? lol) so I'm just going to stick with the 3sgte.

Posts in this topic
- dudeofchaos   How difficult do you think it would be to get from Fwd to Rwd?   Sep 25, 2010 - 5:53 PM
- - JuMPiiN   Simple, no. Anything is possible with money availa...   Sep 25, 2010 - 6:06 PM
|- - dudeofchaos   QUOTE (JuMPiiN @ Sep 25, 2010 - 7:06...   Sep 25, 2010 - 10:37 PM
- - njccmd2002   Ok, why not buy an mr2 and do the front end celica...   Sep 25, 2010 - 6:11 PM
|- - JuMPiiN   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 25, 2010 - 6...   Sep 25, 2010 - 6:13 PM
|- - dudeofchaos   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 25, 2010 - 7...   Sep 25, 2010 - 6:14 PM
- - playr158   oh man...have i ever been in your spot Cut the f...   Sep 25, 2010 - 6:13 PM
- - JuMPiiN   All I have to say is goodluck, risk isnt worth rew...   Sep 25, 2010 - 6:18 PM
|- - dudeofchaos   QUOTE (JuMPiiN @ Sep 25, 2010 - 7:18...   Sep 25, 2010 - 6:23 PM
- - azian_advanced   sounds like a big task.. you best to start practic...   Sep 25, 2010 - 8:57 PM
- - njccmd2002   ^^^^ nice heater!!! good for cold we...   Sep 25, 2010 - 9:50 PM
- - whatthe   How loud would that be haha.   Sep 25, 2010 - 10:06 PM
- - dudeofchaos   I'm mostly looking to keep the engine in the f...   Sep 25, 2010 - 10:33 PM
- - mkernz22   He thought you were going to do a mid engine at fi...   Sep 25, 2010 - 10:48 PM
- - njccmd2002   first of all 1. do you want A: transverse mo...   Sep 25, 2010 - 11:13 PM
- - richee3   RWD Celica? You COULD do it yourself... Or you cou...   Sep 26, 2010 - 4:49 AM
- - 95celicastLSR   you could just do the gt4 conversion and modify th...   Sep 26, 2010 - 10:52 AM
- - dudeofchaos   I know, but since I will eventually make money lat...   Sep 26, 2010 - 7:00 PM
- - JuMPiiN   If you want it so badly..... buy a MR2 or somekind...   Sep 26, 2010 - 7:37 PM
- - Smaay   celicas were all RWD untill the 5th gen or was it ...   Sep 26, 2010 - 8:02 PM
|- - dudeofchaos   QUOTE (Smaay @ Sep 26, 2010 - 9:02 P...   Sep 26, 2010 - 9:40 PM
- - mkernz22   5th gens were fwd best of my luck to you man if y...   Sep 26, 2010 - 8:15 PM
|- - dudeofchaos   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Sep 26, 2010 - 9:1...   Sep 26, 2010 - 9:44 PM
- - hatchy_gt-s   Sorry to tell u this but no u won't have thw f...   Sep 27, 2010 - 9:09 AM
- - b1gr3d   Best thing to do is get a rwd donor that has or us...   Sep 27, 2010 - 9:23 AM
- - Smaay   ok if you really want to go RWD its not that hard....   Sep 27, 2010 - 9:51 AM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Sep 27, 2010 ...   Sep 27, 2010 - 9:56 AM
- - dudeofchaos   Oh, too bad if I'm not the 1st one then. I...   Sep 28, 2010 - 9:12 AM
- - czwalga   Ehh, don't start planning stuff out that far a...   Sep 28, 2010 - 10:09 AM
|- - dudeofchaos   QUOTE (czwalga @ Sep 28, 2010 - 10:0...   Sep 28, 2010 - 5:26 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ Sep 28, 2010 - 5...   Sep 29, 2010 - 6:00 AM
- - JuMPiiN   You shall change your mind ! haha jk, good luc...   Sep 28, 2010 - 8:53 PM
|- - dudeofchaos   QUOTE (JuMPiiN @ Sep 28, 2010 - 8:53...   Sep 29, 2010 - 2:52 PM
- - richee3   The 3S-GE Blacktop BEAMS came in the Toyota Altezz...   Sep 29, 2010 - 4:41 PM
- - JuMPiiN   Exactly what he said above.   Sep 29, 2010 - 4:52 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   probably be better off buying a coroll ae86 and do...   Sep 29, 2010 - 6:21 PM
- - mkernz22   also with the beams, you could turbo it, it wouldn...   Sep 29, 2010 - 7:34 PM
|- - Johnnyny   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Sep 29, 2010 - 8:3...   Sep 29, 2010 - 7:53 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Sep 29, 2010 - 5:3...   Sep 29, 2010 - 10:29 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Sep 29, 2010 - 8:5...   Sep 29, 2010 - 9:54 PM
- - mkernz22   so i guess i shouldn't have mentioned that lol...   Sep 29, 2010 - 9:56 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Well, I understand exactly where your coming from....   Sep 29, 2010 - 10:25 PM
|- - dudeofchaos   QUOTE (coldbluesteel @ Sep 29, 2010 - 11...   Sep 30, 2010 - 8:12 PM
- - mkernz22   just forget i even mentioned it lol   Sep 29, 2010 - 10:34 PM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Sep 29, 2010 - 11...   Sep 30, 2010 - 8:45 AM
- - blu94gt   QUOTE (czwalga @ Sep 28, 2010 - 10:0...   Sep 30, 2010 - 1:04 AM
|- - dudeofchaos   QUOTE (blu94gt @ Sep 30, 2010 - 2:04...   Sep 30, 2010 - 8:09 PM
- - azian_advanced   you should definitely join if you haven't alre...   Oct 1, 2010 - 2:36 AM
- - dudeofchaos   QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Oct 1, 2010 - 3...   Oct 1, 2010 - 6:38 PM


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