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post Mar 10, 2009 - 10:59 AM
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I have seen a dyno of a 4th gen 3s (caldina)making 400whp on stock internals.However with these things you never know how long these engines last for.My question from either personal experiemce or other persons experience .Whats the most power made on a stock bottom half 4 gen to be driven around daily without breaking
I have a 4th gen and changed the pistons cause orginals cracked but didnt have the extra cash to buy forged rods.So i got some JE pistons but the 4th gen rods look so much smaller than the older mr2 and celica rods that with my new build i am deciding to build it to around 350whp and leave it there cause the rods got me nervous
 
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post Nov 15, 2010 - 9:26 AM
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QUOTE (DougTech @ Nov 15, 2010 - 8:27 AM) *
If anyone needs a break on caldina wiring or needs help getting their engine started by conecting various points on engine harnass and ecu to basically cheat and turn engine on without wiring it into car,we can help.all these ideas or comments that this engine is difficult to wire are not true,the problem is the data is in russian or japanese but once you compile info and share notes with others as we did its relativily easy!dont get suckered or misled by wiring guys or swap garages is my best advice.for 400-500 dlrs you save you can buy me a car gift and yourself some nice **** instead of wasting it giving money away so car shop guy can fix up his car and fatten up their bank accounts.my info is free,just email me with where your project's status as far as if the engine has harnass,has ecu or not etc and ill do my best to help you out with a plan on how yours should be connected in order to start.i have plans for guys who need to make harnasses too ,but i had a complete uncut harnass and ecu from car with engine to start off with,which is of course easier,the guy who shared notes with me had to make a harness so there are plans to create and connect a harness.
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Its great to share info! Especially wiring information!

Having said that, I think you are wrong in saying that someone is ripping you off when they provide a wiring service. Having done wiring harness work myself, I can tell you that (as Im sure you know) it can be a very time consuming process, and for some people a very frustrating one. Just removing all of the electrical tape from the harness can take a few hours of someones time to complete.

You also have to remember that wiring up a 2nd gen, 3rd gen and 4th gen 3sgte is not all the same thing. There is more/less wiring involved with each of them, with the 2nd gen harness being the most difficult and time consuming to complete and the 3rd gen being the easiest.

Also, not everyone is good at wiring. You can provide all the info in the world, but you have to remember that some of the people on this site have never done any type of electrical work before. Not everyone knows how to properly solder a connection or the reason for using different gauge wiring when extending parts of the harness. That lack of experience can lead to car fires and all kinds of headaches.

So my point is, share your info and help everyone out, but keep in mind that for some people sending out their harness and having it come back in a plug and play fashion is the RIGHT thing to do! And if you think the price is too expensive, then I challenge you to offer the same wiring service to every swapper on this forum for 50$. I would like to see how long you could keep that up for. lol

This post has been edited by lagos: Nov 15, 2010 - 9:32 AM


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Posts in this topic
- teamchancery   Limits of a 4th gen 3sgte bottom half   Mar 10, 2009 - 10:59 AM
- - lagos   Like you said, you saw one make 400hp on the dyno,...   Mar 10, 2009 - 11:52 AM
|- - teamchancery   QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 10, 2009 - 11:52 ...   Mar 10, 2009 - 1:02 PM
- - pitcelica   the rods are the same part number as any other 3SG...   Mar 10, 2009 - 11:58 AM
- - pitcelica   Ok, I rechecked my Toyota EPC and the gen4 rods ha...   Mar 10, 2009 - 4:52 PM
- - Dragondog   will 4 gen 3sgte fit in our cars im doing a swap ...   Mar 11, 2009 - 10:54 PM
- - pitcelica   Yes it will fit as any other 3sgte. Depend on what...   Mar 12, 2009 - 5:15 PM
- - Dragondog   the forth gen has high comprission thats bad for t...   Mar 13, 2009 - 4:59 AM
- - pitcelica   9.0:1 compression is really good. No problem with ...   Mar 13, 2009 - 6:03 AM
- - Dragondog   sry what is -TVIS on gen2, no TVIS on gen 3 il...   Mar 13, 2009 - 5:43 PM
- - _Jim_   Do NOT rush into anything....take your time. I ha...   Mar 13, 2009 - 7:41 PM
- - Dragondog   thx.....yes i plan to get a hold of tweak for the ...   Mar 13, 2009 - 11:52 PM
- - DougTech   If anyone needs a break on caldina wiring or needs...   Nov 15, 2010 - 8:27 AM
- - njccmd2002   why not post info here? Are u a spam bot..   Nov 15, 2010 - 9:16 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (DougTech @ Nov 15, 2010 - 8:2...   Nov 15, 2010 - 9:26 AM
- - IllIllIll   The 4th gen 3sgte from the Caldina is NOT OBDII. ...   Nov 22, 2010 - 6:22 AM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (IllIllIll @ Nov 22, 2010 - 6...   Nov 24, 2010 - 3:38 PM
- - njccmd2002   http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=6708...   Nov 24, 2010 - 4:09 PM


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