Which way to go with my st, IDEAS, need some help/opinions |
Which way to go with my st, IDEAS, need some help/opinions |
Jan 12, 2011 - 12:52 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
Alright guys, now that i finally have it on the road(ALMOST)
i'm leaving for basic training in may which means i'll be gone for about 6 months after AIT is all said and done, and in that time i don't plan on spending that much money! so i'm looking for some opinions as to what i could do with my st. i was thinking drive it until either 1 it blows up, or starts having problems, or i get a build done. whatever comes first. anyways. i'm looking into 3 things. either A: building the 7a i have on the engine stand from the swap for boost and buying one of smaays turbo kits for the 7a once i finish the build. B: building a 7agte, as i've been reading up on them alot lately. or C: swapping in a 4age. possibly 4agze. but i don't know about that as i'd rather just stay with the stock engine or hyrbid for the most part. and that brings me to another thing, please just don't jump in this thread and say "3sgte FTW" i know all about that and have read countless hours of posts and threads about them and i don't want to go that route until i buy a gt. so thanks in advance for all the advice/input This post has been edited by NOVAKx17: Jan 12, 2011 - 12:55 AM -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 12, 2011 - 1:23 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
I say 7AGTE. There's so few of them on here and nice little light weight monster. Personally, I may go with a 4AGE because my dad has a block and head just laying around. Recycle But probably later down the road, I want a BEAMS. I don't particularly want to go 3SGTE.
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Jan 12, 2011 - 9:05 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
I say 7AGTE. There's so few of them on here and nice little light weight monster. Personally, I may go with a 4AGE because my dad has a block and head just laying around. Recycle But probably later down the road, I want a BEAMS. I don't particularly want to go 3SGTE. I am highly contemplating 7AGTE but i don't know if i want to try building 2 motors into one when all i've ever done is swapped the same engine before. Although you never learn unless you try right? its definately on my list of options i'm going to look through first. so if i can find a good deal on what i would need for it, 7AGTE project maybe (: Personally I don't understand waiting to get a GT? sure I didn't know I needed as much as I did when I started mine... but honestly it isn't that much harder to swap in to an ST. 7AGTE would be rare, but that engine really wouldn't last long I'd think... it was never built for it. but either way find something that would me fun and do it. Kevin its just the fact that i don't preferably want to put a 3SGTE into my st. i know its not that much different, just a tad bit more fabrication, trust me , i've done my research, read over 30 threads on the 3s and its tempting, i just don't want to put it into my st. just a decision i made my mind up on. and as for not lasting long, i think its nik that has had one for awhile but i never asked him how it runs or its reliabilty but he seems to love it Suspension------------Exterior-----------Motor/Trans Full Coils------------Lip kit-------------4agze ........untouchable right now i'm on kyb replacements lowered 2" on eibachs, because i got them all brand new for under 100 bucks but i'm still looking around for a good deal on coilovers, i agree 100% thats the way to go, and gotta love the lip kits! i don't want splitters, i'm thinking oem skirts (which i have) and a full rear lip, not sure which kind, i've contacted a couple companys in japan trying to get them to ship to me, no luck yet. and as for a front lip, theres a lot of decisions.... 4agze... hmmmmmmmmm i'd love to try this, i just haven't came across too many threads with alot of info on this swap just yet for the 6g not because im biased, but all those setups will probably get you close to 200 at most. boosting the 7A maybe a little more, or the 7agte more than that. So, that being said, you dont want a 3sgte. what is your goal in hp, how much? GT ST, that is just cosmetics. few things here and there, blah. swaping or boosting aint easy and requires a lot of patience. In my experience. Doing the beams swap, was easy, and cosidering other swaps out there, it was hassle free. 1. No boosting, 2. Comes with lsd tranny, 3. easy wiring, 4. on an ST very few changes. When i finished wiring the Beams, I cranked it the first time, and did not start, then i tightened some grounds, and Boom. I did not even change water pump, timing belt, or clutch. Straight as is. Of course i knew it had 45 k miles. It will be serviced soon, but hey what more easy than that. Im not selling you a beams, but why go trough the hassle for a few hp increase, when this engine already makes it hassle free. Now if your goals are greater then 3sgte, but then again, you dont want it. see in the beginning i wanted a beams for my st. still may be in my list of options, definately alot of power for the money without a turbo. its close to what 210 right? and i'm looking for around 220-250 hp and i figure i could reach that with building up the 7A, full 2.5" exhaust, and turbo with moderate amount of boost. but i definately have to agree the beams is very tempting.... -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 12, 2011 - 10:14 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
see in the beginning i wanted a beams for my st. still may be in my list of options, definately alot of power for the money without a turbo. its close to what 210 right?
and i'm looking for around 220-250 hp and i figure i could reach that with building up the 7A, full 2.5" exhaust, and turbo with moderate amount of boost. but i definately have to agree the beams is very tempting.... [/quote] No matter what route I take, I'll definitely end up with a BEAMS. They had 197 hp at the flywheel brand new, off the floor. And since there's more aftermarket support for a 3SGE than there is for say, a 7A or a 5S, 220-250hp for a N/A BEAMS is easily attainable. This post has been edited by HectortheRican: Jan 12, 2011 - 10:15 AM -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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Jan 12, 2011 - 10:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
No matter what route I take, I'll definitely end up with a BEAMS. They had 197 hp at the flywheel brand new, off the floor. And since there's more aftermarket support for a 3SGE than there is for say, a 7A or a 5S, 220-250hp for a N/A BEAMS is easily attainable. thats a very good point, and like njccmd said its alot less hassle and alot less to worry about being non turbo. not to mention comes with the lsd. soooo many decisions... this is going to have to take alot more researching. BLAH. butttt on the bright side, i'll have 6 months of semi free time to study up ha This post has been edited by NOVAKx17: Jan 12, 2011 - 10:25 AM -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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