Fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swaps, 0-100km/h, 400m, 1600m time ? |
Fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swaps, 0-100km/h, 400m, 1600m time ? |
Jan 14, 2011 - 4:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 13, '09 From Constanta, Romania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
This year I'm doing the 3sgte swap for sure, I'm already saving money for it. The problem is:
-as far as I've read on 6gc forums, nobody has done the st205 tranny swap (for AWD/4wd); weight would be about the same as a gt4, so why bother swap instead of buying the gt4? -242 hp on the front wheels seem like too much power for FWD; nobody here has ever shown results of a fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swapped Celica, so I think that, despite the ~200 kg "earned" by eliminating AWD, performances are not better than the original ST205. So, is there any way of using the 3sgte gearbox on rear wheels transmission and cancel the front wheels transmission? (this probably is a stupid noob question, maybe someone else already asked that question before, but I just couldn't find any answers about it). This post has been edited by quick_5hifter: Jan 17, 2011 - 1:24 PM -------------------- |
Jan 14, 2011 - 6:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 13, '09 From Constanta, Romania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
and i guess the 242 hp to the Front wheels is a matter of your personal opinion. because there are quite a few members that have over 300 hp to the front wheels and have no problems. Unfortunately, this is not just my opinion, this is not even just an opinion about fwd 3sgte celicas... it's a general opinion about more than ~200 hp on fwd cars. I've read some guys' opinions and they said that no aftermarket differential could solve the "launch" problem. So far, not even a "gear selective" boost controller is available, in order to perform perfect launches. It's not a Celica or 3sgte problem, it's a general fwd problem and I'm just looking for a way to avoid it. Besides that, Celicas have another problem when launching: wheel "hop". Well, in the worst case, I'll be one of the fwd 3sgte Celica owners that can say: "I have a turbo Celica!" seriously, just look in the forced induction forum for multiple posts about FWD 3rd gen swapped celicas, (i have one) no, you cant "cancel" the front wheels on an awd gt-4 tranny. there are a few guys have done the AWD conversion, pipes, and jmyers threads are both in the general disscussion forum. I'll spend my night reading about it. I know about your swap, I'm pretty new on 6gc forums but that doesn't mean I'm not reading and doing research. But, as I said before, I haven't seen some 0-60 mph results of the fwd 3sgte's so far. I have done this new topic for a reason: if rwd is out of discussion I want to know which way is better for a swap: awd or fwd. Also, the expenses are very different: a 3sgte clip is about 3000 usd, while a simple 3sgte engine is about 1200-1500 usd. Shipping to Europe is also more expensive for an engine clip, not to mention the customs... My guess is, if a fwd 3sgte celica isn't faster than a gt-four, it's way better for me to buy a Beams engine and do a simple swap (I have the 3sge engine). Thanks a lot for your answers! -------------------- |
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