Fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swaps, 0-100km/h, 400m, 1600m time ? |
Fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swaps, 0-100km/h, 400m, 1600m time ? |
Jan 14, 2011 - 4:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 13, '09 From Constanta, Romania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
This year I'm doing the 3sgte swap for sure, I'm already saving money for it. The problem is:
-as far as I've read on 6gc forums, nobody has done the st205 tranny swap (for AWD/4wd); weight would be about the same as a gt4, so why bother swap instead of buying the gt4? -242 hp on the front wheels seem like too much power for FWD; nobody here has ever shown results of a fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swapped Celica, so I think that, despite the ~200 kg "earned" by eliminating AWD, performances are not better than the original ST205. So, is there any way of using the 3sgte gearbox on rear wheels transmission and cancel the front wheels transmission? (this probably is a stupid noob question, maybe someone else already asked that question before, but I just couldn't find any answers about it). This post has been edited by quick_5hifter: Jan 17, 2011 - 1:24 PM -------------------- |
Jan 15, 2011 - 4:32 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 13, '09 From Constanta, Romania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Fwd 3sgte is lighter and quicker. Some guys are running high 12s to mid 13s. Now that's a good thing to know. I've read about many swaps, seen many pictures, even a few "first run" videos, but nothing about performances before. quick_5hifter, A lot of us on this site have had fwd 3sgte swapped celicas with well over 200hp for a long time now. I've been daily driving mine for about 6 years now! There are no major issues with this setup. Sure you can say that an awd or a rwd is better than this or that, but thats with any car. I have also been in a real st205. Its a very heavy car. While it might launch well because of awd, the fwd swap is much faster of a street car. If it's two of you, guys, satisfied by the swap you've done, than most likely it can't be as bad as I thought I'm not saying awd is better, there is a pretty big weight difference between fwd 3sgte and awd 3sgte (I guess about ~200 kg), and that extra weight can't be good for the awd at higher speeds. Also, I'm not saying rwd is better than fwd, since I drive my Celica in winter too (and my wife drives it too). Someone was talking about using the gt-four tranny case with fwd internals and, if that was really possible, I've been thinking that a gt-four rwd tranny would also be possible, with some other internals... my bad, transmissions are definately not on my knowledge list buy a supra for RWD Yeh its called a mr2. ...or a Soarer. Or a Ferrari 360 Modena. Yeah, why didn't I think of those? Seriously, guys, I don't want to change my car, not even to buy a gt-four. Also, I'm doing a swap this year, as I said earlier, but I don't want to spend about ~5000 usd if it's not worth it... I mean, my car can do 0-100 in ~7.9 seconds right now, it would be a waste of money to do the fwd 3sgte swap for, let's say, 0-100 in 7 seconds. For the same amount or less, I could do some other things to my car to do 0-100 in 7 seconds, like lowering weight and many others, WHILE KEEPING IT LEGAL with the original engine. On the other hand, it's my only car, it's an every-day car and, if I'll buy a second car, it won't be another Celica, not even another coupe, since my familly is getting bigger. Dude I've beaten BPU Evo's and STI's - the FWD swapped Celica is very fun car and it's quick too. But if you are in an area where you can buy a GT4 why not just sell yours and get one? I personally wouldn't cause my car and I are joined at the hip and I wouldn't give her up for a heavier car even for the AWD [I'd probably just have two ]. Furthermore, there is reason why the 1st and 2nd gen Eclipses [a similar platform in most respects] as well as the Caldina GT4 and GT-T came in both FWD Turbo and AWD Turbo - cause both are fun and good for different motor sports. But an AWD swap can and has been done as was shown to you before. I've taken a look at those swaps, the first one just wouldn't float my boat ever (I would never feel safe in a car made out of two half-cuts, no matter how good the welding is). About the awd transmission, I already said that I don't want so much extra weight. I don't want the 3sgte swap for drift, top speed or the BOV sound, I want to do it for 0-100 and quarter mile. That's why I would like to read about some 0-100 km/h of fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swapped Celicas. I must say I've given this topic a wrong title, wish I could change it to "fwd 3rd gen 3sgte 0 to 100 acceleration time". Thanks for all the replies, even the "evil" ones! -------------------- |
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