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> Fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swaps, 0-100km/h, 400m, 1600m time ?
post Jan 14, 2011 - 4:51 PM
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This year I'm doing the 3sgte swap for sure, I'm already saving money for it. The problem is:
-as far as I've read on 6gc forums, nobody has done the st205 tranny swap (for AWD/4wd); weight would be about the same as a gt4, so why bother swap instead of buying the gt4?
-242 hp on the front wheels seem like too much power for FWD; nobody here has ever shown results of a fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swapped Celica, so I think that, despite the ~200 kg "earned" by eliminating AWD, performances are not better than the original ST205.

So, is there any way of using the 3sgte gearbox on rear wheels transmission and cancel the front wheels transmission?
(this probably is a stupid noob question, maybe someone else already asked that question before, but I just couldn't find any answers about it).

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post Jan 17, 2011 - 12:27 PM
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Like I said in my previous reply, I would like to change the title to "fwd 4rd gen 3sgte 0-100km/h acceleration". Perhaps someone can help me with that.

RWD 3sgte really was a dumb idea, starting with the fact that it would have the weight of an ST 205, while performance would probably be worse.
If a rwd 6gc could be done, than my mechanic could do it too, with no further detalis required. The problem is that I don't have an ST205 tranny to show him, that's why I asked the dumb question in the first place. I don't have the required knowledge to figure it out myself and I didn't make plans to learn everything about transmissions, just to figure out by myself that a rwd st205 tranny isn't possible or, if it is possible, it's not worth the efforts and expenses. Plus, as I've used the search function before creating this thread, there was no other discussion regarding this subject (making a rwd st205 tranny), only discussions about replacing the st20* gearbox to a rwd tranny, swapping the t20 engine to a 1jz/2jz from Supras, with the rwd 5/6 speed tranny and others... nothing about rwd 3sgte with st205 tranny.

It's like some of you guys, owners of CF hoods & stuff, would have to learn everything about CF, including history, chemistry, types of resins etc., just to buy a CF hood... NO, that's not the way to do it, you just ask about weight, durability etc., then buy and install your god damn hood. Or it's like someone looking to buy a decent car stereo would have to learn everything about transistors, resistors, soldering etc. Again, you don't have to do this, you just check out the factory provided specs, see if they fit your taste, than buy the stereo or not. Same goes here: before going further with the rwd dumb idea, I thought it would be better to ask here first, then do research if required. Actually, that was my first dumb idea, to ask this question here.

Forget about the rwd idea, let's move on to the other question: does anyone have info about fwd 3rd gen 3sgte Celicas, like 0-100 km/h time, 400m time, 1600m time, top speed etc.?

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- quick_5hifter   Fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swaps   Jan 14, 2011 - 4:51 PM
- - NOVAKx17   QUOTE (quick_5hifter @ Jan 14, 2011 - 5...   Jan 14, 2011 - 5:04 PM
- - presure2   seriously, just look in the forced induction forum...   Jan 14, 2011 - 5:06 PM
- - quick_5hifter   QUOTE (NOVAKx17 @ Jan 14, 2011 - 6:0...   Jan 14, 2011 - 6:40 PM
- - block   Fwd 3sgte is lighter and quicker. Some guys are r...   Jan 14, 2011 - 7:01 PM
- - lagos   quick_5hifter, A lot of us on this site have had ...   Jan 14, 2011 - 7:16 PM
- - Tom_SS2   buy a supra for RWD   Jan 14, 2011 - 7:29 PM
- - whatthe   Yeh its called a mr2.   Jan 14, 2011 - 8:17 PM
- - DEATH   Dude I've beaten BPU Evo's and STI's -...   Jan 14, 2011 - 9:20 PM
- - quick_5hifter   QUOTE (block @ Jan 14, 2011 - 7:01 P...   Jan 15, 2011 - 4:32 AM
- - Johnnyny   u could use the tranny from an altezza black top   Jan 16, 2011 - 8:59 PM
- - 3WayStunna   Altezza tranny wouldnt fit first and foremost...se...   Jan 17, 2011 - 12:45 AM
- - Culpable04   RWD celica is as possible as the one I saw on pass...   Jan 17, 2011 - 9:34 AM
- - quick_5hifter   Like I said in my previous reply, I would like to ...   Jan 17, 2011 - 12:27 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (quick_5hifter @ Jan 17, 2011 - 11...   Jan 17, 2011 - 12:46 PM
- - Culpable04   you are taking this wrong. it wasn't a dumb ...   Jan 17, 2011 - 12:44 PM
- - richee3   I don't think the idea of a RWD Celica is dumb...   Jan 17, 2011 - 1:31 PM
- - quick_5hifter   @Culpable: 4.3 sounds awesome, but i don't thi...   Jan 17, 2011 - 1:42 PM
- - Culpable04   use this !! at 242 whp and weight of 27...   Jan 17, 2011 - 2:05 PM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   i just wanted to add my two cents about fwd set up...   Jan 17, 2011 - 2:08 PM
- - richee3   Wheel hop can't really be solved in our cars a...   Jan 17, 2011 - 2:22 PM
- - presure2   QUOTE Wheel hop can't really be solved in our ...   Jan 17, 2011 - 4:59 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 17, 2011 - 5:5...   Jan 20, 2011 - 2:31 PM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 17, 2011 - 5:5...   Jan 17, 2011 - 9:44 PM
- - Culpable04   the 4 things that have the most impact on your 1/4...   Jan 20, 2011 - 2:42 PM
- - presure2   high 12's on a 3rd gen swapped 6gc should be a...   Jan 20, 2011 - 4:22 PM
- - quick_5hifter   1.LSD - when I'll do the swap, I'll keep m...   Jan 20, 2011 - 4:26 PM
- - Promasta   fastest confirmed quarter mile by a fwd sixth gene...   Jan 21, 2011 - 2:31 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Promasta @ Jan 21, 2011 - 2:3...   Jan 21, 2011 - 3:19 PM
||- - Promasta   QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 21, 2011 - 3:1...   Jan 22, 2011 - 4:38 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (Promasta @ Jan 21, 2011 - 3:3...   Jan 21, 2011 - 3:21 PM
- - delusionz   Theres not much in it at all, 4WD will get away 1s...   Jan 22, 2011 - 6:03 AM
|- - str8thugginit4ya   QUOTE (delusionz @ Jan 22, 2011 - 6...   Jan 22, 2011 - 8:12 AM
- - Culpable04   not in the same league, but the car who started it...   Jan 25, 2011 - 12:19 PM
- - czwalga   Pressure 2, You definitely have room to improve. ...   Jan 25, 2011 - 8:47 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (czwalga @ Jan 25, 2011 - 8:47...   Jan 26, 2011 - 8:34 AM
- - block   13-14 second 1/4 is quick enough already. if you ...   Jan 26, 2011 - 11:40 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (block @ Jan 26, 2011 - 11:40 ...   Jan 26, 2011 - 11:42 AM
|- - str8thugginit4ya   QUOTE (block @ Jan 26, 2011 - 12:40 ...   Jan 27, 2011 - 8:30 AM
|- - quick_5hifter   QUOTE (str8thugginit4ya @ Jan 27, 2011 ...   Jan 27, 2011 - 6:03 PM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (quick_5hifter @ Jan 27, 2011 - 6...   Jan 27, 2011 - 6:09 PM
- - 3WayStunna   Well to agree with Quick_shifter, some of use woul...   Jan 28, 2011 - 5:58 PM
- - quick_5hifter   Well, I would rather buy a turbo kit for my 3sge, ...   Jan 29, 2011 - 6:18 PM
- - richee3   Perhaps I'm mistaken, but wouldn't 3S-GTE ...   Jan 29, 2011 - 10:45 PM
- - cjh4l22   SO I'm not sure if I saw it in all that but di...   Feb 20, 2012 - 12:53 PM
- - diegohiga   No exact numbers on this yet?   Jun 23, 2012 - 3:06 PM
- - delusionz   heres the final word. FWD3SGTE will never touch a...   Jul 13, 2012 - 7:59 PM


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