Fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swaps, 0-100km/h, 400m, 1600m time ? Options

[quick_5hifter]

This year I'm doing the 3sgte swap for sure, I'm already saving money for it. The problem is:
-as far as I've read on 6gc forums, nobody has done the st205 tranny swap (for AWD/4wd); weight would be about the same as a gt4, so why bother swap instead of buying the gt4?
-242 hp on the front wheels seem like too much power for FWD; nobody here has ever shown results of a fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swapped Celica, so I think that, despite the ~200 kg "earned" by eliminating AWD, performances are not better than the original ST205.

So, is there any way of using the 3sgte gearbox on rear wheels transmission and cancel the front wheels transmission?
(this probably is a stupid noob question, maybe someone else already asked that question before, but I just couldn't find any answers about it).

This post has been edited by quick_5hifter: Jan 17, 2011 - 1:24 PM

[richee3]

I don't think the idea of a RWD Celica is dumb at all. The ST205 transmission is heavy compared to the much lighter S54 FWD transmission that came with the USDM GT and the SS-III model Celicas. So a FWD Celica is already quite a bit lighter right there. However, if you were to take the Altezza transmission and make a RWD Celica as some members here suggested, you could have better traction for launches than a FWD Celica, as you mentioned earlier. No, it would not be cheap and yes, it would take some custom fabrication. But it would be cool as hell to have.

Let's take another look at some numbers: Toyota Supra twin turbo, 320 hp. It's a heavy car compared to our Celicas. Much faster, but also heavier. Swap a 3S-GTE into your Celica and do some basic bolt-ons and you can have 330 hp to the wheels, easy. So you have a lighter car with more power to the wheels than a stock Supra has to the flywheel. That should give you an idea of your 0-60 mph time. The Supra did it in 4.5-4.9 seconds, depending on who you ask. So you're looking at a sub-5 second 0-60 time assuming you can get your launches down. Keep in mind that I have absolutely no proof of this, and I'm just hypothesizing based on the power to weight ratio of both cars.

You mentioned a critical flaw of FWD cars earlier- wheel hop. There isn't really a good "cure" for wheel hop, but there are ways to combat it. Since you will be doing a motor swap anyway, you can invest in some poly motor mounts. Those won't eliminate wheel hop, but they'll help cut down a little bit.

This post has been edited by richee3: Jan 17, 2011 - 1:32 PM