 Fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swaps, 0-100km/h, 400m, 1600m time ? |
 Jan 14, 2011 - 4:51 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 13, '09 From Constanta, Romania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
This year I'm doing the 3sgte swap for sure, I'm already saving money for it. The problem is:
-as far as I've read on 6gc forums, nobody has done the st205 tranny swap (for AWD/4wd); weight would be about the same as a gt4, so why bother swap instead of buying the gt4? -242 hp on the front wheels seem like too much power for FWD; nobody here has ever shown results of a fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swapped Celica, so I think that, despite the ~200 kg "earned" by eliminating AWD, performances are not better than the original ST205. So, is there any way of using the 3sgte gearbox on rear wheels transmission and cancel the front wheels transmission? (this probably is a stupid noob question, maybe someone else already asked that question before, but I just couldn't find any answers about it). This post has been edited by quick_5hifter: Jan 17, 2011 - 1:24 PM --------------------  |
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Jan 22, 2011 - 6:03 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Theres not much in it at all, 4WD will get away 1st, and hold its ground long enough that the FWD will struggle to pass it before 400m.
From there on, Any additional power is more useful to the 4WD since spinning all the way through 3rd gear isnt going to help. -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
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Jan 22, 2011 - 8:12 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '07 From Davie, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE (delusionz @ Jan 22, 2011 - 6:03 AM)  Theres not much in it at all, 4WD will get away 1st, and hold its ground long enough that the FWD will struggle to pass it before 400m. From there on, Any additional power is more useful to the 4WD since spinning all the way through 3rd gear isnt going to help. I think you guys are forgetting the fact that a track surface and a regular road surface is completely different. I'm no expert at ALL, but the drag strip is wayyy stickier than normal driving roads. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that help with the wheels pulling the car, rather than spinning out like how it does on normal roads??? I know that it wouldn't stop the spinning out COMPLETELY, but wouldn't it help out a lot? I have a FWD 3S, but I haven't gotten a chance to take this car to the track as yet. If I do anytime soon I'll post up my times. -Ryan |
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quick_5hifter Fwd 3rd gen 3sgte swaps Jan 14, 2011 - 4:51 PM
NOVAKx17 QUOTE (quick_5hifter @ Jan 14, 2011 - 5... Jan 14, 2011 - 5:04 PM presure2 seriously, just look in the forced induction forum... Jan 14, 2011 - 5:06 PM quick_5hifter QUOTE (NOVAKx17 @ Jan 14, 2011 - 6:0... Jan 14, 2011 - 6:40 PM block Fwd 3sgte is lighter and quicker. Some guys are r... Jan 14, 2011 - 7:01 PM lagos quick_5hifter,
A lot of us on this site have had ... Jan 14, 2011 - 7:16 PM Tom_SS2 buy a supra for RWD Jan 14, 2011 - 7:29 PM whatthe Yeh its called a mr2. Jan 14, 2011 - 8:17 PM DEATH Dude I've beaten BPU Evo's and STI's -... Jan 14, 2011 - 9:20 PM quick_5hifter QUOTE (block @ Jan 14, 2011 - 7:01 P... Jan 15, 2011 - 4:32 AM Johnnyny u could use the tranny from an altezza black top Jan 16, 2011 - 8:59 PM 3WayStunna Altezza tranny wouldnt fit first and foremost...se... Jan 17, 2011 - 12:45 AM Culpable04 RWD celica is as possible as the one I saw on pass... Jan 17, 2011 - 9:34 AM quick_5hifter Like I said in my previous reply, I would like to ... Jan 17, 2011 - 12:27 PM
DEATH QUOTE (quick_5hifter @ Jan 17, 2011 - 11... Jan 17, 2011 - 12:46 PM Culpable04 you are taking this wrong.
it wasn't a dumb ... Jan 17, 2011 - 12:44 PM richee3 I don't think the idea of a RWD Celica is dumb... Jan 17, 2011 - 1:31 PM quick_5hifter @Culpable: 4.3 sounds awesome, but i don't thi... Jan 17, 2011 - 1:42 PM Culpable04 use this !!
at 242 whp and weight of 27... Jan 17, 2011 - 2:05 PM RUNNIN-LOW i just wanted to add my two cents about fwd set up... Jan 17, 2011 - 2:08 PM richee3 Wheel hop can't really be solved in our cars a... Jan 17, 2011 - 2:22 PM presure2 QUOTE Wheel hop can't really be solved in our ... Jan 17, 2011 - 4:59 PM richee3 QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 17, 2011 - 5:5... Jan 20, 2011 - 2:31 PM RUNNIN-LOW QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 17, 2011 - 5:5... Jan 17, 2011 - 9:44 PM Culpable04 the 4 things that have the most impact on your 1/4... Jan 20, 2011 - 2:42 PM presure2 high 12's on a 3rd gen swapped 6gc should be a... Jan 20, 2011 - 4:22 PM quick_5hifter 1.LSD - when I'll do the swap, I'll keep m... Jan 20, 2011 - 4:26 PM Promasta fastest confirmed quarter mile by a fwd sixth gene... Jan 21, 2011 - 2:31 PM presure2 QUOTE (Promasta @ Jan 21, 2011 - 2:3... Jan 21, 2011 - 3:19 PM Promasta QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 21, 2011 - 3:1... Jan 22, 2011 - 4:38 PM czwalga QUOTE (Promasta @ Jan 21, 2011 - 3:3... Jan 21, 2011 - 3:21 PM Culpable04 not in the same league, but the car who started it... Jan 25, 2011 - 12:19 PM czwalga Pressure 2, You definitely have room to improve. ... Jan 25, 2011 - 8:47 PM presure2 QUOTE (czwalga @ Jan 25, 2011 - 8:47... Jan 26, 2011 - 8:34 AM block 13-14 second 1/4 is quick enough already. if you ... Jan 26, 2011 - 11:40 AM presure2 QUOTE (block @ Jan 26, 2011 - 11:40 ... Jan 26, 2011 - 11:42 AM str8thugginit4ya QUOTE (block @ Jan 26, 2011 - 12:40 ... Jan 27, 2011 - 8:30 AM quick_5hifter QUOTE (str8thugginit4ya @ Jan 27, 2011 ... Jan 27, 2011 - 6:03 PM mkernz22 QUOTE (quick_5hifter @ Jan 27, 2011 - 6... Jan 27, 2011 - 6:09 PM 3WayStunna Well to agree with Quick_shifter, some of use woul... Jan 28, 2011 - 5:58 PM quick_5hifter Well, I would rather buy a turbo kit for my 3sge, ... Jan 29, 2011 - 6:18 PM richee3 Perhaps I'm mistaken, but wouldn't 3S-GTE ... Jan 29, 2011 - 10:45 PM cjh4l22 SO I'm not sure if I saw it in all that but di... Feb 20, 2012 - 12:53 PM diegohiga No exact numbers on this yet? Jun 23, 2012 - 3:06 PM delusionz heres the final word.
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