 how to: Mr2 to GT brakes at a reasonable price, Bolt on Caliper Change. |
 Oct 21, 2010 - 7:49 PM
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FIRST OF ALL DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. DO NOT HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES, "FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY, NOT HIGHWAY"
After that nice disclaimer.... Ok im tired of looking at 500 dollar calipers. Yes it would be nice, but what about the people that dont have money. anything other that our poor piss single piston caliper would be nice.. but there are double piston calipers from some ss3 celicas, yeah!! even more rare that hens teeth. (well maybe not)  regardless of that issue, i will not spend 1899 on a big brake kit on a car that is not going to the track, i rather eat that money in bigmacs. So imagine a bigger car, bigger engine. Those brakes stop that car, it must stop the celica. Hmmm larger car. So it must be an upgrade. Yes by 25% or 50% its still upgrading even if it gets 10%. so i ordered from fleabay, after weeks of pictures and pictures. got it today and see both brake pads together  now that i got your attention, lets see more pics   almost same size, a little larger and wait it gets better..  yes that's a celica bracket from a 97 gt, but there is a problem, the cliper mounts are 3/4 of an inch inside the caliper... aprrox..  so i compared the brackets... side by side  they are almost identical except the point where the caliper bolts... no its not easy to bolt the bracket into the celica because of the mounting points..  however its funny how the caliper mount points are identical,  so most calipers points could be identical... meaning its junkyard time... there are two options, get another celica bracket and cut those extended studs and figure if it works..  or find a bracket from another toyota that bolts to our hub and has the same caliper mounts but in a different position. OR! something you can come up with to help this...... And please no "Just get st205 calipers" replies, This caliper was 25 bucks on ebay. Big difference. I will let you all know where this one comes from but for now, i just want you guys to get itchy. I bet culpable knows!!! LOL no, this is not world domination, i need your help, this might turn out great, or it may not work..... Once we figure out the bracket, it may just work with the celica rotors... This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Jun 23, 2011 - 10:10 AM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Feb 3, 2011 - 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Jan 30, 2011 - 2:27 AM)  Damn so the brake bias gets shifted to the back that's no dice at the track. Although it will take less effort to lock the front up. not nessesaraly, the " theorical " magic number for brake bias is 60 / 40 ( front / rear ) but that will vary from setup to setup, and the importance of modifying your Bias is to use the most grip available while keeping the front locking first than the rear, so if you think about it, as long as his front is still locking the tires before the rear, it is an upgrade, a good one actually, because it will spread the braking force better among all 4 tires, so all 4 tires will work more efficiently at stoping the car instead of the front ones doing most of the job with a 70+ % of the braking force on the front. One of my friends tracks his car every season and his brake bias is 58% front 42% rear with an adjustable proportioning valve, he got to those numbers after a lot of trial an error testing. so Norberto, find a safe area where you can test your brakes, have someone look at your tires ( or video ) and make sure your front tires lock before your rear one, if they do, I'll be the first one to call this a great upgrade, best bang for your buck brake upgrade. --------------------  |
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Feb 3, 2011 - 3:13 PM
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QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Feb 3, 2011 - 11:44 AM) QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Jan 30, 2011 - 2:27 AM) Damn so the brake bias gets shifted to the back that's no dice at the track. Although it will take less effort to lock the front up. One of my friends tracks his car every season and his brake bias is 58% front 42% rear with an adjustable proportioning valve, he got to those numbers after a lot of trial an error testing. so Norberto, find a safe area where you can test your brakes, have someone look at your tires ( or video ) and make sure your front tires lock before your rear one, if they do, I'll be the first one to call this a great upgrade, best bang for your buck brake upgrade. oooo that sounds like rubber fun! -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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njccmd2002 how to: Mr2 to GT brakes at a reasonable price Oct 21, 2010 - 7:49 PM
Culpable04 when you go to the junkyard, look for 1996+ 4 runn... Oct 21, 2010 - 8:14 PM qatar11 Out of curiosity... what is your interest in bigge... Oct 22, 2010 - 5:37 AM
urbandork QUOTE (qatar11 @ Oct 22, 2010 - 3:37... Sep 24, 2011 - 8:20 PM qatar11 My $0.02
Stainless Steel Brake Lines - ... Oct 22, 2010 - 6:08 AM njccmd2002 cool so the st185 caliper bolts, I want double po... Oct 22, 2010 - 6:33 AM qatar11 QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 22, 2010 - 6... Oct 22, 2010 - 6:37 AM njccmd2002 http://www.brakeandfrontend.com/Article/38...TwinP... Oct 22, 2010 - 6:46 AM njccmd2002 Well my attempts to use the lexus caliper were a f... Dec 14, 2010 - 7:06 PM Keiri Lookin' good Norberto. I'm really interest... Dec 14, 2010 - 7:23 PM BonzaiCelica People don't wast your money. Buy the more rea... Dec 14, 2010 - 8:37 PM Johnnyny woot glad my idea was helpfull it came to while br... Dec 14, 2010 - 8:50 PM njccmd2002 QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Dec 14, 2010 - 7:5... Dec 14, 2010 - 8:55 PM Johnnyny damn express shipping ftw Dec 14, 2010 - 9:16 PM 96stgreendemon Wait, what kind of brakes are these? Dec 16, 2010 - 4:29 PM Keiri 94-95' MR2 Turbo brake calipers and I don... Dec 16, 2010 - 4:45 PM njccmd2002 those are gt brackets gt rotors gt pads. the onlyt... Dec 16, 2010 - 5:03 PM njccmd2002 but let me make measurements...
oh i was browsing... Dec 16, 2010 - 5:07 PM BonzaiCelica I repeat go to Page 6-8 for an actual brake calipe... Dec 20, 2010 - 10:46 PM njccmd2002 u know what i found those from a company in china,... Dec 21, 2010 - 10:52 AM mkernz22 Now would the rear calipers off an MR2 work on the... Dec 21, 2010 - 11:03 AM njccmd2002 QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Dec 21, 2010 - 10... Dec 21, 2010 - 11:21 AM mkernz22 actually just found some on RPMgarage.com and I do... Dec 21, 2010 - 11:46 AM Johnnyny yeah uhm rear are single and front dual on turbo m... Dec 21, 2010 - 3:54 PM mkernz22 yeahh, i realized that after the fact haha
i was a... Dec 21, 2010 - 7:31 PM njccmd2002 ok guys, im done with this and as always
QUOTE ... Jan 2, 2011 - 5:30 PM mkernz22 These are the ones that you got right?
http://rpmg... Jan 2, 2011 - 10:30 PM njccmd2002 QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Jan 2, 2011 - 9:30... Jan 3, 2011 - 11:37 AM Johnnyny Sticky! Jan 2, 2011 - 10:48 PM mkernz22 I'm gunna offer less on them, like $20 an... Jan 3, 2011 - 1:42 PM njccmd2002 Impressed with the braking. so ILIKEIT.. Jan 4, 2011 - 2:36 AM bccentaur3 Is there more pedal travel needed to push the twin... Jan 4, 2011 - 10:38 AM njccmd2002 QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Jan 4, 2011 - 9... Jan 4, 2011 - 12:28 PM 96stgreendemon So this is basically a direct bolt up to the GT fr... Jan 4, 2011 - 11:31 PM BonzaiCelica I repeat go to Page 6 for an actual brake caliper ... Jan 6, 2011 - 2:36 AM 808celica so if people use the mr2 outers on the halfshafts ... Jan 6, 2011 - 4:12 PM njccmd2002 QUOTE (808celica @ Jan 6, 2011 - 3:1... Jan 6, 2011 - 4:24 PM BonzaiCelica I repeat go to Page 6 for an actual brake caliper ... Jan 13, 2011 - 3:58 AM njccmd2002 you have to buy pads for a celica gt. Remember th... Jan 13, 2011 - 8:47 AM bccentaur3 looks as if the mr2 ones will give you more contac... Jan 13, 2011 - 10:51 AM BonzaiCelica wait don't you have mr2 twin piston calipers o... Jan 13, 2011 - 4:25 PM bccentaur3 Or you guys can use this ,
what i'm build... Jan 13, 2011 - 5:49 PM Culpable04 there are a lot of options from twin caliper setup... Jan 14, 2011 - 9:00 PM njccmd2002 ^^^, the purpose is to keep it cheap. And this is... Jan 15, 2011 - 2:11 PM qatar11 QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jan 15, 2011 - 2... Jan 20, 2011 - 8:01 AM bccentaur3 If you could measure the stock GT caliper pistons ... Jan 15, 2011 - 6:56 PM 808celica Will you be able to run the stock 15's on the ... Jan 20, 2011 - 3:27 AM njccmd2002 Yes, jdm mr2 turbo calipers, I think they sell th... Jan 20, 2011 - 3:13 PM njccmd2002 as requested
mr2 brake pad and the inner ... Jan 27, 2011 - 5:09 PM bccentaur3 so essentially 25.4mm pistons, both pistons? Thats... Jan 27, 2011 - 5:23 PM njccmd2002 Outer diameter is 3.6 cm, i forgot to add that. Jan 27, 2011 - 7:38 PM bccentaur3 Can you measure the stock celica caliper piston? B... Jan 27, 2011 - 11:41 PM njccmd2002 will try tomorrow, the rear caliper most likely no... Jan 28, 2011 - 1:31 AM bccentaur3 no no understandable. I would go out to my project... Jan 28, 2011 - 3:28 PM BonzaiCelica I repeat go to Pages 6-8 for an actual brake calip... Jan 28, 2011 - 11:08 PM bccentaur3 If you could that would be nice ^...
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... Jan 29, 2011 - 8:55 PM Rusty I've found the specs of the calipers for the S... Jan 30, 2011 - 12:34 AM bccentaur3 Damn so the brake bias gets shifted to the back th... Jan 30, 2011 - 1:27 AM njccmd2002 dang, so basically its a non-upgrade... LOL. well ... Jan 30, 2011 - 8:17 PM richee3 The specs that Rusty posted, the single piston cal... Feb 2, 2011 - 1:44 AM bccentaur3 Those specs are correct and no the twin pot calipe... Feb 2, 2011 - 8:43 AM BonzaiCelica QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Feb 2, 2011 - 9... Feb 2, 2011 - 10:26 PM Rusty As I pointed out, the pistons cover the same area,... Feb 2, 2011 - 11:11 PM mkernz22 can't you change the bias by getting the split... Feb 3, 2011 - 12:13 AM SupraKid QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Feb 2, 2011 - 9:13... Feb 3, 2011 - 4:14 AM bccentaur3 U mean the proportioning valve? Ur saying get one ... Feb 3, 2011 - 1:51 AM njccmd2002 Well i cant say we did not try, you guys notice ho... Feb 3, 2011 - 10:37 AM mak5603 Or the Lexus LS400 bias I bought some awhile ba... Feb 3, 2011 - 12:43 PM Culpable04 try this with a old set of tires, you don't wa... Feb 3, 2011 - 3:41 PM bccentaur3 I guess Driver preference??? Feb 3, 2011 - 5:07 PM Culpable04 of course, a car should be setup to the driver... Feb 4, 2011 - 7:57 AM bccentaur3 I totally agree with you Stevenson I guess the bra... Feb 4, 2011 - 8:33 AM njccmd2002 QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Feb 4, 2011 - 7... Feb 4, 2011 - 6:39 PM 96stgreendemon Just out of curiosity where would you get a brake ... Feb 4, 2011 - 10:16 AM Culpable04 Some reading on how to installl them and their use... Feb 4, 2011 - 10:23 AM Spider77 QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Feb 4, 2011 - 11... Feb 4, 2011 - 1:23 PM mkernz22 ^id be one of those people Feb 4, 2011 - 1:41 PM bccentaur3 Well in that case it would be too bad of an ... Feb 4, 2011 - 11:39 PM Culpable04 I have to take some time and calculate the ST205 s... Feb 5, 2011 - 4:54 PM delusionz Someone forgot to mention SS-II non superstrut has... Feb 11, 2011 - 1:44 AM BonzaiCelica QUOTE (delusionz @ Feb 11, 2011 - 1... Feb 11, 2011 - 2:42 AM Rusty Superstrut SS-II and SS-III have Twin Pot front br... Feb 11, 2011 - 3:19 PM S8S8 QUOTE (Rusty @ Feb 12, 2011 - 6:19 A... Mar 26, 2011 - 7:08 PM delusionz I thought when we compared brakes (when I had SS-I... Feb 12, 2011 - 7:12 AM Rusty Don't think so, im pretty sure that was you Feb 12, 2011 - 11:24 AM njccmd2002 yes!!!! you are a lucky man!... Mar 26, 2011 - 7:54 PM BonzaiCelica wow interesting. And for the love of god re size y... Mar 27, 2011 - 12:43 AM Rusty Yes you do
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The twin piston... Apr 6, 2011 - 12:48 AM BonzaiCelica this Sticky thread is useless without pictures... Jun 22, 2011 - 11:49 PM njccmd2002 QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 22, 2011 - 11... Jun 23, 2011 - 10:34 AM BonzaiCelica QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jun 23, 2011 - 10... Jun 23, 2011 - 1:01 PM S8S8 QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 23, 2011 - 2... Jul 13, 2011 - 5:05 PM BonzaiCelica measurements of the twin piston calipers on SS-II ... Sep 22, 2011 - 11:16 PM BonzaiCelica is fensport correct??
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