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[Needles]

so, thats my celica, 1994 gts from canada, this car go in the road every day in the snow or anything, it got 280 000km 3sgte engine 103 000km


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This post has been edited by Needles: May 9, 2012 - 11:22 PM

[SupraKid]

The st215 3sgte in our cars is not a very smart move compared to the 3rd gen. Member _jim_ can ship a FULL 3rd gen 3sgte swap to you for $2100. And saying the 4th gen is 1500(shipped??) and you HAVE to have the harness done by a professional, you will NOT, i repeat, you will NOT be able to do that harness conversion yourself. Your looking at 2100$ alone right there.

Heres the 3sgte generation breakdowns:

1st gen-Useless, was in the st165 rally celica but compared to the other gens its useless
2nd gen- ST185 rally 5th gen celica-Different turbo and various parts,wiring is much harder than the 3rd gen, but all costs on this engine are cheaper(engine,parts,ect) with minimal power lose.
3rd gen-st205 6gc celica-Literally 6 wires to splice,highest HP #s for less about of money, documented swaps to hell and back
4th gen-st215 CADILINA-wiring NIGHTMARE,initial HP #s same as 3rd gen but MANY parts need upgraded to get the hp #s up. The wiring has never been documented because it is incredibly hard

If you'd like more in detail differences between the engines i know there's quite a few in depth replies about it. But yes all the 2nd,3rd and 4th (and possibly the 1st) are all physically the same the the mounts/tranny are the same.


I agree with the tiger imports, i've never heard a 100% good story come out of they're transactions.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jan 22, 2011 - 3:35 PM

[brenton1919]

The st215 3sgte in our cars is not a very smart move compared to the 3rd gen. Member _jim_ can ship a FULL 3rd gen 3sgte swap to you for $2100. And saying the 4th gen is 1500(shipped??) and you HAVE to have the harness done by a professional, you will NOT, i repeat, you will NOT be able to do that harness conversion yourself. Your looking at 2100$ alone right there.

Heres the 3sgte generation breakdowns:

1st gen-Useless, was in the st165 rally celica but compared to the other gens its useless
2nd gen- ST185 rally 5th gen celica-Different turbo and various parts,wiring is much harder than the 3rd gen, but all costs on this engine are cheaper(engine,parts,ect) with minimal power lose.
3rd gen-st205 6gc celica-Literally 6 wires to splice,highest HP #s for less about of money, documented swaps to hell and back
4th gen-st215 CADILINA-wiring NIGHTMARE,initial HP #s same as 3rd gen but MANY parts need upgraded to get the hp #s up. The wiring has never been documented because it is incredibly hard

If you'd like more in detail differences between the engines i know there's quite a few in depth replies about it. But yes all the 2nd,3rd and 4th (and possibly the 1st) are all physically the same the the mounts/tranny are the same.


I agree with the tiger imports, i've never heard a 100% good story come out of they're transactions.

umm i have a caldina engine i paid 1200 for it and dr tweak does the wireharness for 580 flat there is nothin different about this engine but that umm idk maybe that its not as old as the 3sgte st205 it drop's right in u can use most of the parts off of the st205 only thing that is different is that it has c.o.p's im so tired of hearing people talk bad about this engine if u ask me i think yall are just to cheap to buy a caldina .... and the bad thing is .. is that if u already have a gt celica all you have to do is drop the engine in change the flywheel and clutch and send your wire harness to tweak if u can get one for 1500 your going to spend like 2500 total on the swap if u do it your self wowwww that cost sooooooooooooo muchhhhh and u got 20 more hp for 400 bucks please learnnnn your info before u talk ish and u cant even tell me anything i dont know because i have a caldina and have already done this swap so i know what it takes and what it doesn't