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post Mar 1, 2011 - 7:02 PM
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97Supra

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I have never found a problem with an engine that I was unable to fix with some moderate thinking.. but with this 1.8L engine I have done the following:

Symptoms:

Car starts VERY FAST. Click vroom. Perfect. Idles 1200 or so to warm up, then drops to what appears to be factory setting around 750 or so. In park, or neutral the engine is vibrating but you don't feel it as bad. The moment you put it in a gear, R or D the entire car shakes to pieces. Touch the gas, and with a load the problem is magically gone until the next stop light... it never stalls. I just failed emissions for HC.. (unburned fuel... which made me think ignition system)


- plugs
- cap
- rotor
- wires
- coolant temp sensor
- egr check
- re-ground everything
- iac clean / check
- vacuum sensor check
- replace all vacuum lines
- checked for leaks anywhere
- set base timing to factory specs
- changed fluids
- changed motor mounts
- unplugged and plugged back in every sensor to no avail
- put on an entirely different distributor
- drained the gas tank and put in all new fuel

.. The only thing I can think of that I did not try is replacing the ignition coil in the distributor, it could be bad.. but the likely hood of both the old and newer distributors coils both being bad is probably slim... I'm going insane.

Now after messing with the TPS my idle wont go below 1,000 or so.. guess I put it back in the wrong position. Oh well, I'll figure that out later but is there anything I'm missing here? I've tried everything I searched google many times I can't even find anything else to check.

fuel pressure? Any ideas....

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post Mar 27, 2011 - 6:14 PM
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my car shakes like hell as well, today for some odd reason it stopped for about a min, once it gets to 900rpms its rough, so i throw it in neutral and rev it to 2000 rpms and it is fine, but like clownprob said clean your throttle body, someone recommended that to me.

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- 97Supra   Rough idle - smooths out when I drive (going insane)   Mar 1, 2011 - 7:02 PM
- - Smaay   hhmmm got me stumped, messing with your TPS is bad...   Mar 1, 2011 - 7:08 PM
- - 97Supra   yes, all mounts changed. Gotta find the route caus...   Mar 1, 2011 - 7:18 PM
- - 97Supra   installed an entirely different rail / fpr / injec...   Mar 3, 2011 - 3:30 PM
- - RavenAegis45   Did you check your alternators output it may be ol...   Mar 3, 2011 - 4:07 PM
- - d3ath2009   my brother's civic had basically the same prob...   Mar 3, 2011 - 4:20 PM
- - 97Supra   alternator is brand new 14-15+v running just inst...   Mar 3, 2011 - 6:12 PM
- - 97Supra   I installed the new ERG today and that was a waste...   Mar 7, 2011 - 6:56 PM
- - cyberblader1130   Any exhaust leaks? O2 sensors good? Have you che...   Mar 7, 2011 - 7:29 PM
- - 97Supra   New header / had to have a shop cut it at the fle...   Mar 7, 2011 - 7:53 PM
|- - cyberblader1130   QUOTE (97Supra @ Mar 7, 2011 - 8:53 ...   Mar 7, 2011 - 8:20 PM
- - 97Supra   well, this one is from a 95 geo prism, we pulled t...   Mar 7, 2011 - 8:27 PM
|- - cyberblader1130   QUOTE (97Supra @ Mar 7, 2011 - 9:27 ...   Mar 7, 2011 - 9:04 PM
- - captb   I had a similar problem but mine would die out som...   Mar 8, 2011 - 1:00 PM
- - SwissFerdi   I think I might have to do mine as well gents, I n...   Mar 8, 2011 - 1:55 PM
- - 97Supra   did the fuel filter when we pulled the motor.. Ju...   Mar 8, 2011 - 2:37 PM
- - SwissFerdi   ^ Without seeing the bill, I can agree with you th...   Mar 8, 2011 - 2:43 PM
- - cyberblader1130   Fuel Pump?   Mar 8, 2011 - 3:26 PM
- - Tigawoods   going through the same problem. everything i do do...   Mar 8, 2011 - 3:37 PM
- - 97Supra   The fuel pressure was to spec according to the hay...   Mar 9, 2011 - 8:49 AM
- - stephen_lee   if youre really worried about the internal conditi...   Mar 9, 2011 - 7:39 PM
- - 97Supra   Compression test results: Cylinder 1: 205 Cylinde...   Mar 10, 2011 - 9:20 AM
- - stephen_lee   motor should be okay then. raise the idle and it s...   Mar 10, 2011 - 12:46 PM
- - 97Supra   I'm definitely going to try this for the comfo...   Mar 10, 2011 - 5:19 PM
- - windowlicker   do a cylinder leak down test.   Mar 16, 2011 - 12:11 AM
- - stephen_lee   how'd this turn out?   Mar 16, 2011 - 8:29 AM
- - 97Supra   got the car back, it passed inspection and the sho...   Mar 16, 2011 - 7:37 PM
- - clownpRon   I tried to solve this mystery, but gave up after a...   Mar 17, 2011 - 3:25 AM
- - 97Supra   If I figure it out I'll be sure to post it up ...   Mar 17, 2011 - 8:15 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (97Supra @ Mar 17, 2011 - 9:15...   Mar 27, 2011 - 3:03 PM
- - clownpRon   I'm pretty sure though it's the throttle b...   Mar 18, 2011 - 12:10 AM
- - stephen_lee   raise the idle with that resistor guys. the idle i...   Mar 20, 2011 - 1:16 PM
- - Bitter   you can't just change the throttle stop screw,...   Mar 20, 2011 - 2:14 PM
- - delusionz   You haven't unwittingly used Polyurethane engi...   Mar 21, 2011 - 4:08 PM
- - zfjohnson07   my car shakes like hell as well, today for some od...   Mar 27, 2011 - 6:14 PM
- - stephen_lee   if theres a bottom end problem (balance, rod) it w...   Mar 28, 2011 - 3:39 PM
- - 97Supra   i still haven't found the issue.. but that shi...   Apr 4, 2011 - 10:57 AM
- - zfjohnson07   well not to jack your thread. been searching for i...   Apr 5, 2011 - 7:50 PM
- - 97Supra   The hard idle set screw is what the throttle pulle...   Apr 7, 2011 - 3:55 PM
|- - bluecelica1   QUOTE (97Supra @ Apr 7, 2011 - 4:55 ...   Nov 14, 2011 - 9:20 PM
- - csscza   Im following along mine just got back on the road ...   Apr 19, 2011 - 2:23 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (csscza @ Apr 19, 2011 - 3:23 ...   Apr 19, 2011 - 8:59 PM
- - Jaws4God   having a similar issue.. haven't really done m...   Sep 28, 2011 - 12:46 PM
- - stephen_lee   on the rear of the throttle body theres a small pl...   Sep 28, 2011 - 7:59 PM
|- - Jaws4God   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Sep 28, 2011 - 8...   Sep 28, 2011 - 8:19 PM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (Jaws4God @ Sep 28, 2011 - 8:1...   Sep 28, 2011 - 9:09 PM
- - Special_Edy   pull all four spark plugs(keep them in order) and ...   Nov 18, 2011 - 9:16 PM


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