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post Mar 26, 2011 - 9:44 AM
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I have literally checked everything on this car, had engine harness redone for 3sgte st205, ( originally 5sfe ) coil checks out good, but have power going to coil when key turned on, as well as negative side of coil has constant power, is this right???? Is something screwed up in the wiring? As well, checked an injector clip, and have constant power to black/ orange wire, but nothing on the other...when trying to crank, could my coil check out good from a multimeter, and still be shot or something? Have no spark coming from coil, to coil wire, confused.gif really driving me nuts right now. I'm plugin, but I'm not playin.
 
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post Mar 27, 2011 - 10:10 PM
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Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness
post Mar 27, 2011 - 10:57 PM
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 10:10 PM) *
Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness


Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????
post Mar 27, 2011 - 11:38 PM
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Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness


Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????
yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem
post Mar 27, 2011 - 11:52 PM
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Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness


Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????
yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem


K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????
post Mar 28, 2011 - 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 12:52 AM) *
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 10:10 PM) *
Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness


Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????
yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem


K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????


Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU. tongue.gif
post Mar 28, 2011 - 1:44 AM
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 1:07 AM) *
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 10:10 PM) *
Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness


Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????
yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem


K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????


Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU. tongue.gif


Do you still think it's my coil when I'm not getting a pulse signal when cranking, kindasad.gif
post Mar 28, 2011 - 9:03 AM
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 2:44 AM) *
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 10:10 PM) *
Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness


Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????
yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem


K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????


Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU. tongue.gif


Do you still think it's my coil when I'm not getting a pulse signal when cranking, kindasad.gif
did u get a new one ? and did u check your EFI RELAY its your main relay and your ignitor might be bad the only other this i could think of is your timing is off or your ecu is bad call tweak today and talk to him about it he might tell u to send the whole harness and ecu him because theres one wire and iif its lose nothin will work its purple pink or brown or black comin from the efi relay and goes in to the euc trace your wires from the coil to the ecu make sure they are lighting up tweak will fix your harness for free if its messed just send it back to him but i would tell him to check your ecu to if you got a new coil and still nothin it has to be your ignitor or your wires are wrong somewhere or your ecu or a relay is bad ............................................................
................. is your car turning over ?
post Mar 28, 2011 - 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (brenton1919 @ Mar 28, 2011 - 9:03 AM) *
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 10:10 PM) *
Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness


Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????
yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem


K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????


Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU. tongue.gif


Do you still think it's my coil when I'm not getting a pulse signal when cranking, kindasad.gif
did u get a new one ? and did u check your EFI RELAY its your main relay and your ignitor might be bad the only other this i could think of is your timing is off or your ecu is bad call tweak today and talk to him about it he might tell u to send the whole harness and ecu him because theres one wire and iif its lose nothin will work its purple pink or brown or black comin from the efi relay and goes in to the euc trace your wires from the coil to the ecu make sure they are lighting up tweak will fix your harness for free if its messed just send it back to him but i would tell him to check your ecu to if you got a new coil and still nothin it has to be your ignitor or your wires are wrong somewhere or your ecu or a relay is bad ............................................................
................. is your car turning over ?


yes, my car cranks very strong, and i have two igniters, i have tried both....nothing, had a friend check relays when turn key on, and both EFI and ST relay click, but even if my timing is off, wouldnt i still see a spark??
post Mar 28, 2011 - 11:10 AM
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 11:04 AM) *
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 2:44 AM) *
QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 1:07 AM) *
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 11:57 PM) *
QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 10:10 PM) *
Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness


Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????
yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem


K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????


Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU. tongue.gif
yes you will still see a spark thats why i think u have a bad ecu or tweak might have wired a wire wrong but i really dont think its his wires like ive said he's down to many to mess up give him a call tell him wats going and see what he says and then call ATSRACING in denton tx tell them your problem and see what they say

Do you still think it's my coil when I'm not getting a pulse signal when cranking, kindasad.gif
did u get a new one ? and did u check your EFI RELAY its your main relay and your ignitor might be bad the only other this i could think of is your timing is off or your ecu is bad call tweak today and talk to him about it he might tell u to send the whole harness and ecu him because theres one wire and iif its lose nothin will work its purple pink or brown or black comin from the efi relay and goes in to the euc trace your wires from the coil to the ecu make sure they are lighting up tweak will fix your harness for free if its messed just send it back to him but i would tell him to check your ecu to if you got a new coil and still nothin it has to be your ignitor or your wires are wrong somewhere or your ecu or a relay is bad ............................................................
................. is your car turning over ?


yes, my car cranks very strong, and i have two igniters, i have tried both....nothing, had a friend check relays when turn key on, and both EFI and ST relay click, but even if my timing is off, wouldnt i still see a spark??

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QUOTE (brenton1919 @ Mar 28, 2011 - 12:10 PM) *
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 2:44 AM) *
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QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 10:10 PM) *
Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire behind the intake manifold, on a 10mm bolt the wire had an end that excepted that bolt, n screwed it tight to back of manifold. From the harness


Ok just tested coil with battery + - and had a very very small spark on coil wire ( discharge ) end, to screwdriver, is this spark supposed to be big n bold, or barely able to see it????? Cause that's what it was...really had to look for the spark????
yeah try to go get a new coil and see what it does i really think that is your problem


K man, I am gettin one tomorrow.....keep my fingers crossed, the scary thing is, if this doesn't work, I don't know what else it could be????


Just checked power to ECU, and it lights up like a Christmas tree...definitely power to ECU. tongue.gif
yes you will still see a spark thats why i think u have a bad ecu or tweak might have wired a wire wrong but i really dont think its his wires like ive said he's down to many to mess up give him a call tell him wats going and see what he says and then call ATSRACING in denton tx tell them your problem and see what they say

Do you still think it's my coil when I'm not getting a pulse signal when cranking, kindasad.gif
did u get a new one ? and did u check your EFI RELAY its your main relay and your ignitor might be bad the only other this i could think of is your timing is off or your ecu is bad call tweak today and talk to him about it he might tell u to send the whole harness and ecu him because theres one wire and iif its lose nothin will work its purple pink or brown or black comin from the efi relay and goes in to the euc trace your wires from the coil to the ecu make sure they are lighting up tweak will fix your harness for free if its messed just send it back to him but i would tell him to check your ecu to if you got a new coil and still nothin it has to be your ignitor or your wires are wrong somewhere or your ecu or a relay is bad ............................................................
................. is your car turning over ?


yes, my car cranks very strong, and i have two igniters, i have tried both....nothing, had a friend check relays when turn key on, and both EFI and ST relay click, but even if my timing is off, wouldnt i still see a spark??


yes you would see a spark even if the timing is off umm man the only thing i could think off is the ecu or tweaksss wires but i really dont think its the wires but u never know how do u know its not e=gettin a spark did u stick a screw driver in there and let it light u up lol i kno it sound crazy but thats what i do lol call tweak if i was u i would send him my ecu and the wires let him go over it and make sure its good there find the ground to the ecu like u did the power see if your ecu is getting ground i think u are having a ground problem if i was near u i kno i could fix your problem but not being around the car is kind of hard lol i know how to make a car start when its not getting a spark but like i said im not near u so lol i have to go off your info does all your dash lights come on then u turn the key i kno this sound crazy but sometimes these cars get a short mine had this problem the check engine light wont come on when u turn the key that means some where those wires i was tellin u about has a short your car will turn over but wont start its a purple wire a pink wire and the other one is either white black or brown i cant remember but we had to e run that wire because it was trippin i know the prolem u are having because my car use to do it

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- injection   3sgte swap/ still no spark??   Mar 26, 2011 - 9:44 AM
- - presure2   silly question, but the ignitor is making good gro...   Mar 26, 2011 - 9:52 AM
|- - injection   QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 26, 2011 - 9:5...   Mar 26, 2011 - 10:58 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 26, 2011 - 11...   Mar 26, 2011 - 11:08 AM
|- - injection   QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 26, 2011 - 11...   Mar 26, 2011 - 11:46 AM
- - presure2   nope, the car will run without the pump being wire...   Mar 26, 2011 - 11:59 AM
|- - injection   QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 26, 2011 - 12...   Mar 26, 2011 - 12:23 PM
- - Culpable04   the fuel circuit and intercooler pump circuit run ...   Mar 26, 2011 - 12:01 PM
|- - injection   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Mar 26, 2011 - 12...   Mar 26, 2011 - 2:09 PM
- - Culpable04   that will depend on how they converted your harnes...   Mar 26, 2011 - 2:45 PM
- - brenton1919   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 26, 2011 - 10...   Mar 26, 2011 - 3:50 PM
- - presure2   Iirc he had the harness done by tweak.   Mar 26, 2011 - 4:31 PM
|- - injection   QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 26, 2011 - 5:3...   Mar 26, 2011 - 5:11 PM
- - Neon90424   My 205 had problems with the relays I would lose s...   Mar 26, 2011 - 11:55 PM
- - injection   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 26, 2011 - 9...   Mar 27, 2011 - 12:18 AM
- - injection   If the fuel resister shorts out, could that cause ...   Mar 27, 2011 - 10:58 AM
- - Stambo   i'm pretty sure if the resistor went out you w...   Mar 27, 2011 - 11:50 AM
|- - injection   QUOTE (Stambo @ Mar 27, 2011 - 11:50...   Mar 27, 2011 - 12:07 PM
||- - brenton1919   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 1...   Mar 27, 2011 - 2:24 PM
||- - injection   QUOTE (brenton1919 @ Mar 27, 2011 - 2...   Mar 27, 2011 - 2:52 PM
||- - brenton1919   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 2...   Mar 27, 2011 - 3:21 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (Stambo @ Mar 27, 2011 - 12:50...   Mar 27, 2011 - 2:29 PM
- - Culpable04   are you saying you don't have pulse signal to ...   Mar 27, 2011 - 3:36 PM
|- - injection   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Mar 27, 2011 - 4...   Mar 27, 2011 - 4:10 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 5...   Mar 27, 2011 - 4:18 PM
- - presure2   3rd gens do not have a cam sensor..(well, technica...   Mar 27, 2011 - 4:02 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 5...   Mar 27, 2011 - 4:43 PM
|- - injection   QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Mar 27, 2011 - 4...   Mar 27, 2011 - 5:11 PM
- - Stambo   so looks like either something with the ecu or diz...   Mar 27, 2011 - 5:36 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (Stambo @ Mar 27, 2011 - 5:36 ...   Mar 27, 2011 - 5:38 PM
|- - injection   QUOTE (Stambo @ Mar 27, 2011 - 6:36 ...   Mar 27, 2011 - 5:59 PM
|- - injection   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 6...   Mar 27, 2011 - 6:12 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 6...   Mar 27, 2011 - 6:22 PM
|- - injection   QUOTE (brenton1919 @ Mar 27, 2011 - 6...   Mar 27, 2011 - 6:32 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 7...   Mar 27, 2011 - 6:55 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 7...   Mar 27, 2011 - 9:27 PM
- - injection   Now that you said that Brenton, I did mount a wire...   Mar 27, 2011 - 10:10 PM
|- - injection   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 10...   Mar 27, 2011 - 10:57 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 27, 2011 - 11...   Mar 27, 2011 - 11:38 PM
|- - injection   QUOTE (brenton1919 @ Mar 27, 2011 - 11...   Mar 27, 2011 - 11:52 PM
|- - injection   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 12...   Mar 28, 2011 - 12:07 AM
|- - injection   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 1...   Mar 28, 2011 - 1:44 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 2...   Mar 28, 2011 - 9:03 AM
|- - injection   QUOTE (brenton1919 @ Mar 28, 2011 - 9...   Mar 28, 2011 - 11:04 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (injection @ Mar 28, 2011 - 11...   Mar 28, 2011 - 11:10 AM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (brenton1919 @ Mar 28, 2011 - 12...   Mar 28, 2011 - 1:47 PM
- - injection   Well,'just finished installing new coil.....tr...   Mar 28, 2011 - 1:40 PM


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