3sgte, JDM swap Options

[Bladey]

Hello all, i have been reading your forum quite a while now and love it, and what a car the celica is

i have a 1996 st202 3sge 5 speed manual currently and would been keen to do a 3sgte swap, i have a few questions of corse and ive researched a lot but most of the swaps are american and hence are quite different ( engine, LHD, clutch, wiring) etc

So i have access to a 3sgte from a st185 or sw20 mr2 for quite cheap (being in NZ has its advantages)

if i get one of these engines how hard is it to put in? will i need to do the hybrid clutch set up as i have read about? will the ecu and wiring be quite difficult and how hard is it to make it a front mount intercooler? as getting a gt4 hood is almost impossible and if so 700 bucks is far to much imo

Any other things i may have to worry about?

cheers guys

[Bladey]

Cheers guys, Yeah celica's are pretty common over here but heaps of 3sfe

Ye i would perfer to get a gen 3 but they are quite hard to find and redline want 3k for theres which i feel is a bit of a rip, also reading the MR2 power primer the gen 2 can make quite a bit of power at stock just buy increasing the boost to 15psi ( before fuel cut off)

what kinda brakes will i need for a cert? my car already has adjustable coil overs so that should be ok

Cheers Guys

[mkernz22]

Cheers guys, Yeah celica's are pretty common over here but heaps of 3sfe

Ye i would perfer to get a gen 3 but they are quite hard to find and redline want 3k for theres which i feel is a bit of a rip, also reading the MR2 power primer the gen 2 can make quite a bit of power at stock just buy increasing the boost to 15psi ( before fuel cut off)

With just those minor upgrades on the gen 2, it will equal just about the same as a stock gen 3 engine. If you do the same mods to both engines, the gen 3 will have a bit more power than the gen 2

[delusionz]

Cheers guys, Yeah celica's are pretty common over here but heaps of 3sfe

Ye i would perfer to get a gen 3 but they are quite hard to find and redline want 3k for theres which i feel is a bit of a rip, also reading the MR2 power primer the gen 2 can make quite a bit of power at stock just buy increasing the boost to 15psi ( before fuel cut off)

With just those minor upgrades on the gen 2, it will equal just about the same as a stock gen 3 engine. If you do the same mods to both engines, the gen 3 will have a bit more power than the gen 2

It makes no sense to go Gen 2 in NZ. You don't understand we have all the JDM cars here, a ct20b is hard to come by on it's own though since they've all been snapped up by Gen2 MR2 and ST185 owners.

It makes sense in the USA as you have local stock of Gen 2 and would have to import Gen 3 making Gen 2 + mods an equally feasibile option.

Here the Gen 2 had it's day, and died out a long time ago when every man and his dog owned and raped an SW20 or ST185 (The market value of an ST185 from 2005 to 2009 went from $5000 to $2000 for a good runner). Now they are hard to come by.

The Gen 3 went much the same way, except started with fewer numbers.

The Gen 4 is in abundance at the moment as GT-T Caldinas are wrecked left right and centre.

Anyways, going off topic here so the bottom line is. Gen 2 requires alot more effort to install and makes low power for a 2L turbo. the upgrade doesnt really make good value for the money and time spent