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post Apr 21, 2011 - 3:07 AM
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is the 4th gen 3sgte a strong engine...better power over the others?


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post Apr 22, 2011 - 11:04 AM
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What I mean is that it's the head that makes it high compression, not the pistons.

All 3s-gte are 1998cc (499.5cc per cylender)

499.5cc / 8.5 = 58.76cc (per head chamber)

499.5cc / 9.0 = 55.5cc (per head chamber)

You see? Since the bore and stroke are always the same (86mm x 86mm), if the compression was raised using taller pistons it would take a different bore and stroke to achieve 1998cc

This is just to give you an idea, Pi * R2 * H obviously doesnt factor in piston crown and head shape, and piston ring recess, but you get the gist of it.


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- timdog1720   3sgte 4th   Apr 21, 2011 - 3:07 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   Crank and pistons are the same, rods are made of c...   Apr 21, 2011 - 6:15 AM
|- - timdog1720   ok so why does it have more power???? QUOTE (Cuts_...   Apr 21, 2011 - 6:27 AM
|- - cax_11   QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Apr 21, 2011 - 6...   Apr 21, 2011 - 10:43 PM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (cax_11 @ Apr 22, 2011 - 3:43 ...   Apr 22, 2011 - 1:25 AM
- - cax_11   Check this site out if you don't agree http://...   Apr 22, 2011 - 7:08 AM
- - delusionz   What I mean is that it's the head that makes i...   Apr 22, 2011 - 11:04 AM
- - azian_advanced   actually, taller pistons cangive you the higher co...   Apr 22, 2011 - 2:52 PM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Apr 22, 2011 - 1...   May 7, 2011 - 12:38 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   Pistons are the same between 3rd and 4th, check to...   Apr 22, 2011 - 8:16 PM
- - azian_advanced   if the pistons are the same, then the 4th gen rods...   Apr 22, 2011 - 9:52 PM
- - timdog1720   wow I started a good convo....   Apr 23, 2011 - 12:45 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   Just heared from a reliable source that they are t...   Apr 23, 2011 - 6:13 AM
- - delusionz   If pistons were taller using the same bore and str...   Apr 23, 2011 - 9:13 AM
|- - azian_advanced   QUOTE (delusionz @ Apr 23, 2011 - 9...   May 4, 2011 - 4:03 AM
- - easternpiro1   WOW... im late... QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Ap...   May 4, 2011 - 2:11 AM
|- - PhoenixTech   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ May 4, 2011 - 3...   May 4, 2011 - 3:14 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (PhoenixTech @ May 4, 2011 - 3...   May 6, 2011 - 4:14 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ May 6, 2011 - 4...   May 6, 2011 - 4:46 PM
- - azian_advanced   well what i meant was the locations of the pistons...   May 7, 2011 - 8:04 AM
- - Neon90424   Theres a guy that has a sick ST215 down here...As ...   May 7, 2011 - 9:36 AM
- - delusionz   But didn't we already confirm Gen 3 and 4 use ...   May 7, 2011 - 4:14 PM
- - azian_advanced   initially i was just stating that taller pistons w...   May 7, 2011 - 8:57 PM
- - delusionz   Yeah you're actually right about that, moving...   May 7, 2011 - 10:47 PM
- - paul52   you are right. the volume of the air/fuel when th...   Jun 9, 2011 - 8:38 PM
- - 3WayStunna   While browsing the MR2 forums, there was also inte...   Jun 9, 2011 - 11:51 PM


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