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post Apr 21, 2011 - 3:07 AM
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is the 4th gen 3sgte a strong engine...better power over the others?


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post Apr 23, 2011 - 9:13 AM
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If pistons were taller using the same bore and stroke you would have higher compression but less cc's.

1998cc and 86mm*86mm seems to be consistent throughout all 3s-* motors.


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post May 4, 2011 - 4:03 AM
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Apr 23, 2011 - 9:13 AM) *
If pistons were taller using the same bore and stroke you would have higher compression but less cc's.

1998cc and 86mm*86mm seems to be consistent throughout all 3s-* motors.


the bore and stroke is what determines the cc's. the volume between the top of the piston at TDC and head have nothing to do with it. you can verify it by doing this:

π * [(8.6cm/2)^2] * 8.6cm * 4 cylinders = 1998 cc's

taller pistons (or longer rods) will just shift the stroke closer to the head resulting in higher compression but won't affect its cc's.


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- timdog1720   3sgte 4th   Apr 21, 2011 - 3:07 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   Crank and pistons are the same, rods are made of c...   Apr 21, 2011 - 6:15 AM
|- - timdog1720   ok so why does it have more power???? QUOTE (Cuts_...   Apr 21, 2011 - 6:27 AM
|- - cax_11   QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Apr 21, 2011 - 6...   Apr 21, 2011 - 10:43 PM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (cax_11 @ Apr 22, 2011 - 3:43 ...   Apr 22, 2011 - 1:25 AM
- - cax_11   Check this site out if you don't agree http://...   Apr 22, 2011 - 7:08 AM
- - delusionz   What I mean is that it's the head that makes i...   Apr 22, 2011 - 11:04 AM
- - azian_advanced   actually, taller pistons cangive you the higher co...   Apr 22, 2011 - 2:52 PM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Apr 22, 2011 - 1...   May 7, 2011 - 12:38 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   Pistons are the same between 3rd and 4th, check to...   Apr 22, 2011 - 8:16 PM
- - azian_advanced   if the pistons are the same, then the 4th gen rods...   Apr 22, 2011 - 9:52 PM
- - timdog1720   wow I started a good convo....   Apr 23, 2011 - 12:45 AM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   Just heared from a reliable source that they are t...   Apr 23, 2011 - 6:13 AM
- - delusionz   If pistons were taller using the same bore and str...   Apr 23, 2011 - 9:13 AM
|- - azian_advanced   QUOTE (delusionz @ Apr 23, 2011 - 9...   May 4, 2011 - 4:03 AM
- - easternpiro1   WOW... im late... QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Ap...   May 4, 2011 - 2:11 AM
|- - PhoenixTech   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ May 4, 2011 - 3...   May 4, 2011 - 3:14 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (PhoenixTech @ May 4, 2011 - 3...   May 6, 2011 - 4:14 PM
|- - brenton1919   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ May 6, 2011 - 4...   May 6, 2011 - 4:46 PM
- - azian_advanced   well what i meant was the locations of the pistons...   May 7, 2011 - 8:04 AM
- - Neon90424   Theres a guy that has a sick ST215 down here...As ...   May 7, 2011 - 9:36 AM
- - delusionz   But didn't we already confirm Gen 3 and 4 use ...   May 7, 2011 - 4:14 PM
- - azian_advanced   initially i was just stating that taller pistons w...   May 7, 2011 - 8:57 PM
- - delusionz   Yeah you're actually right about that, moving...   May 7, 2011 - 10:47 PM
- - paul52   you are right. the volume of the air/fuel when th...   Jun 9, 2011 - 8:38 PM
- - 3WayStunna   While browsing the MR2 forums, there was also inte...   Jun 9, 2011 - 11:51 PM


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