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post Aug 18, 2011 - 8:26 PM
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Hey guys, I just changed out my head gasket not too long ago. After everything was put back together I drove it around a bit and the ride was good as I expected. But a few days after I tried to just floor it to see what it would sound like(just got my exhaust done 2.5" catback and custom intake). Yeah it sounded really nice but I noticed the more the RPM rose the more power was loss, but the engine got louder at 4500RPM and it reminded me of the VTEC that Honda has. I know its a 5SFE and they are like boat anchors, but it sounds to me that my timing may be off. Heres a video of what I was trying to describe, sorry for the poor quality it was hard to try to record, steer, and shift at the same time kindasad.gif



 
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post Aug 21, 2011 - 5:14 PM
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actually this generation of engine DOES same small changes in the fuel map in the ecu, along with idle positions and timingg settings, and shift settings if its an auto. its in the BGB so toyota reccoments tis after work affecting engine VE.

pull the efi fuse in the engine bay. sit 10 sec for obd1 and 10 min for obd2. start car let idle 5min (auto only) put in D for 1 minute. drive at moderate throttle position (20-50%) untill 4th gear. relearn is complete. (except fine tune, which your ecu will do for up to 100 starts)


BUT this will def not cause a serious problem... lol

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post Aug 21, 2011 - 5:25 PM
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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Aug 21, 2011 - 6:14 PM) *
actually this generation of engine DOES same small changes in the fuel map in the ecu, along with idle positions and timingg settings, and shift settings if its an auto. its in the BGB so toyota reccoments tis after work affecting engine VE.

pull the efi fuse in the engine bay. sit 10 sec for obd1 and 10 min for obd2. start car let idle 5min (auto only) drive at moderate throttle position (20-50%) untill 4th gear. relearn is complete. (except fine tune, which your ecu will do for up to 100 starts)


BUT this will def not cause a serious problem... lol


NO that only resets long/short fuel trim not you A/F ratio the only way to change that is with reprograming. Timing is also PROM.

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE THINK FUSES AND RELAYS ARE MAGIC!!! All removing the EFI fuse accomplishes is disconecting the the power from the fuel pump THATS ALL, it doesnt have magic powers that resets programs. Removing the battery does the same thing as pulling fuses or relays.

QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Aug 21, 2011 - 6:17 PM) *
but pulling relays = no point


Same thing with fuses.
post Aug 21, 2011 - 8:30 PM
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QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Aug 21, 2011 - 6:25 PM) *
QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Aug 21, 2011 - 6:14 PM) *
actually this generation of engine DOES same small changes in the fuel map in the ecu, along with idle positions and timingg settings, and shift settings if its an auto. its in the BGB so toyota reccoments tis after work affecting engine VE.

pull the efi fuse in the engine bay. sit 10 sec for obd1 and 10 min for obd2. start car let idle 5min (auto only) drive at moderate throttle position (20-50%) untill 4th gear. relearn is complete. (except fine tune, which your ecu will do for up to 100 starts)


BUT this will def not cause a serious problem... lol


NO that only resets long/short fuel trim not you A/F ratio the only way to change that is with reprograming. Timing is also PROM.

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE THINK FUSES AND RELAYS ARE MAGIC!!! All removing the EFI fuse accomplishes is disconecting the the power from the fuel pump THATS ALL, it doesnt have magic powers that resets programs. Removing the battery does the same thing as pulling fuses or relays.

QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Aug 21, 2011 - 6:17 PM) *
but pulling relays = no point


Same thing with fuses.


Um. the toyota manual states that removing the efi 15a fuse is the way to clear CEL codes from memory. I can upload if you want to see.

edit: i know it wont help this guy in his situation, but pulling fuses is not the most useless thing ever thought of by humanity or anything. just fyi.

This post has been edited by samir0189: Aug 21, 2011 - 8:31 PM


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Posts in this topic
- Scosh   Need Help with 5SFE!   Aug 18, 2011 - 8:26 PM
- - 199celica   sounds to me like your distributor isn't being...   Aug 19, 2011 - 9:36 PM
- - 6G96GT   I believe you'll lose low end power from the e...   Aug 20, 2011 - 5:22 PM
- - Scosh   It has close to 180k miles and it struggles to sta...   Aug 20, 2011 - 5:40 PM
- - 199celica   Might sound dumb but most cars do misfire under lo...   Aug 21, 2011 - 12:12 AM
- - hatchy_gt-s   Does your battery light always turn off when you a...   Aug 21, 2011 - 11:40 AM
- - 199celica   You kno i just got to talking to my girlfriend and...   Aug 21, 2011 - 12:21 PM
|- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE (199celica @ Aug 21, 2011 - 1...   Aug 21, 2011 - 5:09 PM
- - stephen_lee   actually this generation of engine DOES same small...   Aug 21, 2011 - 5:14 PM
|- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Aug 21, 2011 - 6...   Aug 21, 2011 - 5:25 PM
|- - samir0189   QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Aug 21, 2011 ...   Aug 21, 2011 - 8:30 PM
|- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE (samir0189 @ Aug 21, 2011 - 9...   Aug 22, 2011 - 7:24 AM
- - stephen_lee   but pulling relays = no point   Aug 21, 2011 - 5:17 PM
- - stephen_lee   as stated, SMALL CHANGES in the fuel map. not huge...   Aug 21, 2011 - 8:24 PM
- - stephen_lee   and again, this doesnt sound like it will help in ...   Aug 21, 2011 - 8:29 PM
- - Scosh   Update: I changed my alternator( it was garbage),...   Aug 21, 2011 - 9:27 PM
|- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE (Scosh @ Aug 21, 2011 - 10:27 ...   Aug 22, 2011 - 7:29 AM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Aug 22, 2011 ...   Aug 22, 2011 - 8:45 AM
- - stephen_lee   i would rather replace the spark plugs than clean ...   Aug 21, 2011 - 9:58 PM
- - Scosh   UPDATE: I have found my problem! It was my T...   Aug 27, 2011 - 3:55 PM
- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE (Scosh @ Aug 27, 2011 - 4:55 P...   Aug 28, 2011 - 7:12 PM


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