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post Sep 5, 2011 - 4:04 AM
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Working along side with Jamie at CW Racing to develop a proper front splitter. (Not a front lip)
Universal for all cars as long as the front end if flat. (This can be achieved with a front lip added on)
This is what we've come up with so far.
Opinions pls?



 
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post Sep 7, 2011 - 9:54 AM
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QUOTE (abflug @ Sep 6, 2011 - 5:00 AM) *
Does it come under the car so that it's not visible or does it gonna stick out under the front bumper.


It will stick out front he bumper by about 2 inches yes.
Splitter rods will be included in the kit too.

QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Sep 6, 2011 - 10:33 AM) *
I understand the 2 outer most channels, but the rest of them are not clear to me.

having those channels at any angle other than 0 degrees will create more turbulance under the car, the channels should serve as a guide for the air to escape the underbody of the car faster, not aimed to hit the underbody, so a flat underbody with a REAR diffuser is the " most " effective way.

^ this is how I understand this works, not an attack to your concept, just trying to get some acknowlegde as how this is suppose to work and why.


Understood. The idea is that the splitter sits lower than the mid section so by having a slope it helps increase the air flow speed up as it passes.
We've done a few more simulations to test this logic. I'll post it up later on.

QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Sep 6, 2011 - 8:36 PM) *
Culp is right having those angles underneath the car will actually cause lift. Also the 2 on the outers are pushing air towards the tire and you want to push air away from the tire.
(Will only work at high rate of speed and if air can even make it to the channels)
If you moved the outer channels inside angle to the mid point of the tire and angled the inner two towards the brakes or change the angle 360 so the ducks push cool air into the engine bay(as long as the road temp is cooler the ambient air)

BUT on most of our cars it wont even matter because for the most part the cars dont see speeds for this to be effective or not.
P.S. If hydroplaning those outer channels would push more water under the tire at high rates of speed.


I see your point. The idea on the two on the wheels are quite similar to the two main at the rear. Typically a pain splitter is totally flat. The same air passes under directly in front the the tyres are the same volume when hitting the tyres.
Many new cars divert the air by putting a flat panel rite in front of the wheel face. This works by diverting the air away from the wheels but as a result, causes much more turbulence and more drag. So the idea is instead of diverting it down or to the side, the same about out air is directed up and over. The rotation of the wheels push the air out anyway.


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- yellowchinaman   Universal race splitter by RT-P and CW Racing   Sep 5, 2011 - 4:04 AM
- - 808celica   2pc design possibly?? or even a 4pc in either C/F ...   Sep 5, 2011 - 6:41 PM
- - chacha   i like it..everytime i save, i could never save en...   Sep 5, 2011 - 10:59 PM
|- - cheela   QUOTE (chacha @ Sep 5, 2011 - 9:59 P...   Sep 6, 2011 - 12:04 AM
- - Boz205   Looks great! Would love to see it made and fit...   Sep 6, 2011 - 2:33 AM
- - abflug   Does it come under the car so that it's not vi...   Sep 6, 2011 - 4:00 AM
- - Tigawoods   1.Tigawoods lol but that looks pretty sound so fa...   Sep 6, 2011 - 9:20 AM
- - Culpable04   I understand the 2 outer most channels, but the re...   Sep 6, 2011 - 9:33 AM
- - hatchy_gt-s   Culp is right having those angles underneath the c...   Sep 6, 2011 - 7:36 PM
- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (abflug @ Sep 6, 2011 - 5:00 A...   Sep 7, 2011 - 9:54 AM
- - yellowchinaman   here's a mini write up from CW racing after va...   Sep 7, 2011 - 9:57 AM
- - Culpable04   as expected, the most improvement seems to come fr...   Sep 7, 2011 - 10:33 AM
- - playr158   Can't say it any better than Culp . Id like t...   Sep 7, 2011 - 11:09 AM
- - yellowchinaman   Thanks culp. You have highlighted some very import...   Sep 7, 2011 - 11:44 AM
- - yellowchinaman   Culp I've been thinking about your point and I...   Sep 7, 2011 - 3:22 PM
- - LimitedGT4   want one   Sep 7, 2011 - 6:35 PM
- - hatchy_gt-s   What Culp is trying to say is you want the windage...   Sep 7, 2011 - 8:51 PM
|- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Sep 7, 2011 - ...   Sep 8, 2011 - 5:41 AM
- - SwissFerdi   Guys, as much as we might not have much aftermarke...   Sep 8, 2011 - 8:34 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   I'd be interested in this. While your at it ...   Sep 8, 2011 - 8:50 PM
- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Sep 8, 2011 - 9...   Sep 9, 2011 - 2:16 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   no Difference between 2 Post Spoiler GT4 Riser Blo...   Sep 9, 2011 - 1:03 PM
|- - Boz205   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 9, 2011 - 2...   Sep 10, 2011 - 6:12 AM
|- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 9, 2011 - 2...   Sep 10, 2011 - 7:02 AM
- - OOBE   Will having a 3" downpipe interfere with the ...   Sep 21, 2011 - 5:06 PM
|- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (OOBE @ Sep 21, 2011 - 6:06 PM...   Sep 21, 2011 - 6:00 PM
|- - OOBE   QUOTE (yellowchinaman @ Sep 21, 2011 - 5...   Sep 30, 2011 - 10:14 AM
- - qatar11   What speeds are we talking about to get the benefi...   Sep 30, 2011 - 9:44 AM
|- - ricochet1490   QUOTE (qatar11 @ Sep 30, 2011 - 9:44...   Oct 3, 2011 - 1:51 PM
- - OOBE   ^ Dang dude, you still post! It's only a h...   Sep 30, 2011 - 10:09 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   update!!?   Dec 22, 2011 - 10:30 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   hello?   Dec 29, 2011 - 11:25 PM
- - chacha   im hoping for an update too.   Dec 30, 2011 - 2:11 AM
- - yellowchinaman   I havent been in this forum for a while now. Mainl...   Dec 30, 2011 - 4:04 AM
- - UndecidedPC9397   This looks really sweet. interest in seeing the fi...   Jan 3, 2012 - 8:19 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   yay.... one month later. where you at???   Feb 11, 2012 - 1:51 AM
- - Tigawoods   just a little bump so I dont have to search for it...   Apr 3, 2012 - 7:02 PM
- - yellowchinaman   currently being tweaked before making the final th...   Apr 5, 2012 - 1:51 PM
- - hatchy_gt-s   Most hardware stores carry turnbuckles, I know the...   Apr 6, 2012 - 1:10 PM
|- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (hatchy_gt-s @ Apr 6, 2012 - ...   Apr 6, 2012 - 2:39 PM
|- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE (yellowchinaman @ Apr 6, 2012 - 3...   Apr 6, 2012 - 3:34 PM
- - playr158   might try www.mcmaster.com   Apr 6, 2012 - 2:44 PM
|- - ricochet1490   QUOTE (playr158 @ Apr 6, 2012 - 2:44...   Apr 6, 2012 - 5:21 PM
- - yellowchinaman   a small update on this. Here's the first proto...   May 14, 2012 - 1:37 PM
- - ricochet1490   now THAT is sexy   May 14, 2012 - 1:45 PM
- - Tigawoods   RE: Universal race splitter by RT-P and CW Racing   May 14, 2012 - 1:46 PM
- - marcov   Yeah, thats nice!!!!   May 15, 2012 - 11:31 AM
- - ricochet1490   so we ended up going with number 4 huh? interesti...   May 15, 2012 - 11:45 PM
- - chacha   RAy....i hope you stay in business for a long time...   May 16, 2012 - 11:52 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   wow awesome stuff!!!   May 17, 2012 - 12:43 AM
- - Box   Reminds me of a mushroom. A sexy, aerodynamic mus...   May 17, 2012 - 12:45 AM
- - ricochet1490   fo sale? lol   May 20, 2012 - 11:07 AM
- - marcov   available now??   Jun 4, 2012 - 11:48 AM
|- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (marcov @ Jun 4, 2012 - 12:48 ...   Jun 5, 2012 - 6:17 AM
- - marcov   okay, but what kind of prices are we talking about...   Jun 5, 2012 - 12:36 PM
- - Lil-Joe101   hey chinaman, glad I could help u out with the pic...   Jun 5, 2012 - 1:09 PM
- - yellowchinaman   actually the prototype is lighter than my CF bonne...   Jun 6, 2012 - 5:27 AM
- - chacha   update if possible on the price and time for buyin...   Jun 17, 2012 - 5:20 PM
- - Tigawoods   I assume this will replace the stock underplastic...   Jun 18, 2012 - 2:45 PM
- - playr158   That would make sense   Jun 18, 2012 - 4:25 PM
- - yellowchinaman   So here it is. This is going into production i...   Jul 3, 2012 - 4:52 AM
- - UndaGrwnD   that looks very nice!! will definitely c...   Jul 3, 2012 - 5:12 AM
- - smkr3w   Sick! Almost disappointing that 90% of it will...   Jul 3, 2012 - 5:19 AM
- - Tigawoods   awesome! finally got those turn buckle rods...   Jul 3, 2012 - 6:39 AM
- - ricochet1490   WOW I'm impressed for sure. wouldn't alumi...   Jul 3, 2012 - 10:04 AM
- - marcov   I want one now!! Awesome Ray!!...   Jul 3, 2012 - 10:31 AM
- - yellowchinaman   It should stick out no more than 2.5" from th...   Jul 3, 2012 - 1:21 PM
- - chacha   I would definitely like to look at the fitment pic...   Jul 3, 2012 - 5:01 PM
- - yellowchinaman   In a few weeks time I'll have it installed to ...   Jul 4, 2012 - 2:14 AM
|- - Tigawoods   QUOTE (yellowchinaman @ Jul 4, 2012 - 3...   Aug 9, 2012 - 6:41 AM
- - chacha   RE: Universal race splitter by RT-P and CW Racing   Jul 6, 2012 - 12:13 AM
- - playr158   Haha, i cant wait to see fitment pics. also would...   Aug 9, 2012 - 7:04 AM
- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Aug 9, 2012 - 7:4...   Aug 9, 2012 - 2:49 PM
- - chacha   amen RAY...im in...keep me posted...still saving u...   Aug 11, 2012 - 1:58 AM
- - yellowchinaman   Special thanks to Marco in the Netherlands who rac...   Sep 11, 2012 - 11:27 AM
- - playr158   I'm liking what i see here!   Sep 11, 2012 - 12:09 PM
- - Tigawoods   Yaaay   Sep 11, 2012 - 12:45 PM
- - UndaGrwnD   Niceeeeee!!   Sep 11, 2012 - 2:09 PM
- - ricochet1490   OMG..... so no shipping to the west huh?   Sep 11, 2012 - 6:23 PM
- - yellowchinaman   Best price I can get to send to US or Canada is 28...   Sep 12, 2012 - 2:17 AM
- - playr158   For the US get 3-5 people together, ship to 1 plac...   Sep 12, 2012 - 11:06 AM
- - ricochet1490   Still hav e guys who never received the aluminum u...   Sep 12, 2012 - 11:26 AM
- - yellowchinaman   true but its quite a responsibility for who ever w...   Sep 12, 2012 - 1:48 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   i thought this was going to fit like the aluminum ...   Sep 12, 2012 - 10:36 PM
|- - marcov   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 12, 2012 - 11...   Sep 13, 2012 - 12:06 PM
|- - Temporary-Failure   QUOTE (marcov @ Sep 13, 2012 - 7:06 ...   Sep 16, 2012 - 9:49 AM
- - chacha   Ray...do you think the aluminum under panel will h...   Sep 13, 2012 - 1:19 AM
- - yellowchinaman   you would not be able to use the C one tray with t...   Sep 13, 2012 - 4:54 AM
- - yellowchinaman   final pics thanks to Marco   Sep 15, 2012 - 4:49 PM
- - SwissFerdi   That's umm...I've had a crisis. I'm no...   Sep 15, 2012 - 7:05 PM
- - yellowchinaman   I KNOW! I was thinking the same thing too. Why...   Sep 16, 2012 - 8:04 AM
- - marcov   Fensport!! Yeah!!! split...   Sep 17, 2012 - 3:36 AM
|- - yellowchinaman   Marco Fantastic news. Do you have the youtube link...   Sep 17, 2012 - 5:35 AM
- - Boz205   Yellowchinaman, ship some of these down to the con...   Sep 17, 2012 - 3:42 AM
- - playr158   Marco your car looks good man! I'd suggest...   Sep 17, 2012 - 5:30 AM
- - marcov   I had an onboard camera that filmed the round. But...   Sep 17, 2012 - 8:08 AM
|- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (marcov @ Sep 17, 2012 - 9:08 ...   Sep 17, 2012 - 9:05 AM
- - SwissFerdi   Zandvoort, wow! Mijn vader vertelde over hoe h...   Sep 17, 2012 - 9:29 AM
|- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Sep 17, 2012 - 10...   Sep 17, 2012 - 10:25 AM
- - marcov   yeah, it's a great circuit! I think that t...   Sep 17, 2012 - 11:34 AM
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