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> Anyone riding on falken ZE-912/ZE-512 tires? yes i searched -_-, I think these tires have what Im looking for but I want opinions
post Nov 26, 2008 - 11:21 PM
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hey everyone, I've been doing alot of research on tires lately and I think i've settled on falken ZE-912/ZE-512 tires. According to the interwebs, the falkens are UHP tires that wont kill me when it snows. They seem to offer really good performance (z rated) and tread life but tend to be noisy. I'm a bit suspicious because they sound too good to be true, and their description on falkens website simply gushes about their technical prowess blah blah blah. I've read reviews all over the place BUT i know that most online reviews suck because the reviewers hadn't given the tire any time to break in. Thats why i want to see if anyone here has had these tires for an extended period of time. Do they really grip that well? How much worse do they make our already bad road noise prob? What is snow traction like? Is it true that the sidewall is actually softer (IE handle worse) than on the older 512's?


Im stuck between choosing these falkens a set of toyo proxes or khumo ecstas. I've had the proxes before on a different car and they were AMAMZING even when almost worn out. help me out here smile.gif

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post Nov 1, 2011 - 12:23 PM
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Hi,

Sorry to bump this old thread (although I did search!). I found this thread in Google while searching for Falken 512s vs 912s and I thought I'd share my experience.

I don't have a Celica (hence the username) but I have been using Falken 512s for the last 5 years (not the same set, obviously).

I have a competing FWD car from another Japanese manufacturer from 2002 (are we allowed to mention that on this forum? laugh.gif ) that came with some horrible Firestone tires stock that would hydroplane on a drop of water, and would spin when starting from a stop if the ground was wet from a normal start, I'm not even talking about "launching" or flooring it. Just casually pressing the pedal down would spin the tires. Worst tires I've ever used in my life. So around 20,000 miles I started doing research and around that time (2006?) Consumer Reports was saying that the 512s were like the best all season tire at the best price and since I live in Chicago and need all season tires, I figured I'd give them a try.

I got a set of Falken 512s in 205/60/15 size (they were like $42 each back then) and they were better in every way than the stock Firestones. They handled better in water than the Firestones did when it was dry.

Dry traction was excellent. Wet traction was very good. Traction in the snow was decent, but keep in mind you have to drive differently in the snow. I was totally happy with these tires.

But, as everyone else says, the treadlife kind of sucks. Around 20-25,000 miles, I noticed I was starting to spin my wheels when starting from a stop when the ground was wet. There was still some tread left on the tire, but I don't care what it looks like; I care how it performs. I know it says they last for 50,000 miles or whatever, and there might technically be tread left up to 50,000 miles, but the grip goes long before that.

So it was time to get new tires again and after doing some more research, I decided to go with another set of 512s. Same results. Awesome grip everywhere for 20,000 miles or so.

When those wore out I did more research and found that, as others have mentioned, the 512s appeared to be "discontinued." I emailed Falken and asked if anyone still carried them and they said Discount Tire did, so I saw they were like $70 each at Discount Tire. I was like whoa, that's quite the price increase. Then I found Discount Tire Direct (their mail order division) and they were like $52 or something, so I had 4 shipped to me and had a local place mount them. I was happy to see that they were still available since I like these tires and didn't want to risk changing to something else that might suck and then I'm stuck with it.

I got a third set after about 20 or 25k miles or so, which I am currently on.

Honestly, when those need to be replaced (which will probably happen within a year or so), I will strongly consider getting another set.

Keep in mind, I don't really drive "hard." While I floor it sometimes, I don't throw my car through corners, I don't go to the track, and I don't autocross. So I'm wondering if some of you who said your tires only lasted 10,000 miles do these things. I just drive like a normal guy and like I said, living in Chicago I need all season tires cuz we have everything from really hot weather to lots of rain to ice to light snow to 8+ inches of snow over night. I've been really happy with the Falken 512s overall. But as I mentioned before, obviously in the winter you have to drive like it's the winter; with all season tires, your lightweight 2WD car isn't going to handle like an AWD SUV with snow tires, so I don't think it's fair to be like "these tires suck in the snow!!!" lol. For all season tires I have been very happy with them.

Hope this helps.

Anyone here still using these tires?

This post has been edited by notacelica: Nov 1, 2011 - 12:28 PM

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- enderswift   Anyone riding on falken ZE-912/ZE-512 tires? yes i searched -_-   Nov 26, 2008 - 11:21 PM
- - elvasoshexai   i dunno what review you read.. but every review i ...   Nov 27, 2008 - 10:12 AM
- - BURNSJ2   im usin the 512s. im also dropped with teins and h...   Nov 27, 2008 - 10:24 AM
- - Cutrara   Don't get the ecstas, I had them, tread life s...   Nov 27, 2008 - 12:42 PM
- - enderswift   In other words just stick with the proxies? anyon...   Nov 27, 2008 - 1:45 PM
- - 808celica   WOOOT!!! for toyos some damn good tir...   Nov 27, 2008 - 1:54 PM
- - 95celgt   are you guys serious?! proxes are CR@P!...   Nov 27, 2008 - 2:08 PM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE (95celgt @ Nov 27, 2008 - 9:08...   Nov 27, 2008 - 2:14 PM
- - enderswift   really? I had horrible worn proxes on my vdub and ...   Nov 27, 2008 - 2:14 PM
- - brthrurik   have had the 512's loved 'em. got 24k mile...   Nov 27, 2008 - 3:38 PM
- - terqui   I just got a set of 512s. They cant have more than...   Nov 27, 2008 - 6:26 PM
- - 95celgt   512's will probably last you a year.........2 ...   Nov 27, 2008 - 7:12 PM
- - enderswift   gotta love buying tires every year... im gonna do ...   Nov 28, 2008 - 2:37 AM
- - presure2   i had 3 sets of the 512's. theyre great....whe...   Dec 2, 2008 - 8:19 AM
- - bhawk94   I have been running the 205-50-15 ZE-912's for...   Dec 2, 2008 - 9:13 AM
- - LewFX   452s are nice, proxies are lame (not enough bite f...   Dec 2, 2008 - 11:02 AM
- - enderswift   okay. avoid the 512's got it. bhawk have you h...   Dec 2, 2008 - 12:04 PM
- - richee3   I wouldn't say avoid them altogether at all...   Dec 2, 2008 - 6:00 PM
- - elvasoshexai   i'm not sure, but do 512s also give a slightly...   Dec 2, 2008 - 6:15 PM
- - enderswift   profile matters alot. But any UHP tire will give a...   Dec 2, 2008 - 6:57 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (enderswift @ Dec 2, 2008 - 6...   Dec 2, 2008 - 7:12 PM
- - enderswift   will do sir. may take a while, Majoring in M E eat...   Dec 2, 2008 - 7:26 PM
- - GriffGirl   THREAD JACK!!! I got new tires on Wed...   Dec 2, 2008 - 7:28 PM
- - enderswift   oooooo fancy. nice rims too   Dec 2, 2008 - 7:30 PM
- - GriffGirl   (too bad they're chewed to all hell LOL)   Dec 2, 2008 - 7:53 PM
- - BURNSJ2   griffy you got the same rims and tires as me! ...   Dec 2, 2008 - 9:33 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (BURNSJ2 @ Dec 2, 2008 - 6:33 ...   Dec 3, 2008 - 3:52 PM
|- - CelicaST_CALI   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Dec 3, 2008 - 12...   Dec 3, 2008 - 11:09 PM
- - Valo666   I used to sell Falkens...ALOT...I originaly had a ...   Dec 2, 2008 - 9:45 PM
- - brthrurik   the 912's are much better in snow than the 512...   Dec 2, 2008 - 9:45 PM
- - 6strngs   falken tires don't last for crap. you're l...   Dec 2, 2008 - 10:37 PM
- - richee3   QUOTE EDIT: Also, the 512s have been discontinued,...   Dec 2, 2008 - 10:46 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 2, 2008 - 7:46 ...   Dec 2, 2008 - 11:17 PM
- - enderswift   ...just when i thought i was settled everyone has ...   Dec 2, 2008 - 11:28 PM
- - richee3   6strngs, you've got me worried now lol. I know...   Dec 3, 2008 - 12:56 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 2, 2008 - 9:56 ...   Dec 3, 2008 - 3:09 AM
- - enderswift   appreciate the reply richee, Im not too worried ab...   Dec 3, 2008 - 1:32 AM
- - richee3   Enderswift, I'm glad you did your homework bef...   Dec 3, 2008 - 3:26 PM
- - hurley97   Nice Griff, I would like to know your review after...   Dec 3, 2008 - 9:52 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (hurley97 @ Dec 3, 2008 - 6:52...   Dec 4, 2008 - 12:39 AM
- - BURNSJ2   yeah i was gonna stay with the yokos but they were...   Dec 4, 2008 - 12:41 AM
- - 3TST   This may, or may not, be appropriate as I have a G...   Dec 4, 2008 - 12:09 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (3TST @ Dec 4, 2008 - 9:09 AM)...   Dec 4, 2008 - 12:52 PM
- - GriffGirl   Oh, no doubt those Goodyears are excellent tires I...   Dec 4, 2008 - 4:10 PM
- - 3TST   Here are the Kumhos I've got Kumho Ecsta SPT K...   Dec 4, 2008 - 5:14 PM
- - 6strngs   just another example of how crappy falken tires ar...   Dec 4, 2008 - 9:56 PM
- - richee3   Eh, I think a lot of that has to do with driving c...   Dec 4, 2008 - 10:37 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   so now that im reading this post about these tires...   Dec 4, 2008 - 10:53 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Dec 4, 2008 - 7...   Dec 4, 2008 - 11:13 PM
- - 97celiman   SHUZAAAMMMMM just came yesterday!!!...   Dec 4, 2008 - 11:49 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (97celiman @ Dec 4, 2008 - 8:4...   Dec 5, 2008 - 12:14 AM
- - 97celiman   btw those are eagle f1-ds3...if you can afford it ...   Dec 4, 2008 - 11:54 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   Well the reason why im settling for falken is caus...   Dec 5, 2008 - 3:45 AM
|- - 6strngs   well, I just looked at the bundles for the raze r7...   Dec 5, 2008 - 10:44 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   alright then thx then 6 strngs, Ill look into them...   Dec 5, 2008 - 8:14 PM
- - richee3   Hey, I have a question. 6strngs, you seems really ...   Dec 10, 2008 - 8:35 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 5:35...   Dec 11, 2008 - 2:56 AM
- - richee3   It was VERY helpful. I know all about caster and c...   Dec 11, 2008 - 1:36 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   took your advice 6strngs on buying that bundle of ...   Dec 11, 2008 - 5:12 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Dec 11, 2008 - 2...   Dec 11, 2008 - 9:03 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   hey 6strngs well thanks for da help. And also ya i...   Dec 15, 2008 - 5:42 AM
- - 6strngs   215/45/17 will fit fine. I had 225/45/17 which wou...   Dec 15, 2008 - 10:07 AM
- - I3arruka   For mid-west winters, any all season tire pales in...   Dec 15, 2008 - 10:42 AM
- - GriffGirl   Guys, don't forget, a lot of places will price...   Dec 15, 2008 - 2:14 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   hey 6 strngs so the offset for the raze r74 with s...   Dec 15, 2008 - 3:34 PM
- - notacelica   Hi, Sorry to bump this old thread (although I did...   Nov 1, 2011 - 12:23 PM
- - enderswift   well, I ended up buying the ze 912's. They are...   Nov 3, 2011 - 9:00 AM


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