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post Nov 4, 2011 - 4:42 PM
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Hey All,
A Month or so ago, I got a PM from Eli (Malecrod), asking me if I was interested in doing a 3rd gen swap for him.
We exchanged a handfull of PM's discussing the in's and out's of getting it done for him, and settled in on a plan of action.
I went over the details of what he wanted to do to the engine as far as mantinence and what not, he let me know that he wanted to get everything done while the motor was out, just to make sure everything is fresh and ready to go when he picks the car up after the swap.
So, I made a list of all the mantinence parts we would need, and set him up with an engine set thru Jim.
I am currently waiting on the motor to arrive, and in the mean time, have been ordering and gathering all the parts to get the motor ready to go in.

His car currently has a 2nd Gen 3SGTE Swap, that was done by dr. tweak back in '06, using the stock S54 tranny, with a front mount intercooler, ect.
The one "issue" he had with the car is that for some reason, he's gone thru several clutches. He explained that for some reason, he kept spitting out the springs on whatever brand disk he tried. (spec, comp, ect) He is currently running an ACT 6 puck sprung disk clutch that he has had good luck with so far, but noted that it did have a heavy pedal feel, and that he was open to suggestions on which brand to go with.
Other than that, he said that the car runs just fine, he just wants to update the motor, and go to the cleaner 3rd gen intercooler setup.

So, for the Clutch, I suggested a Clutchmasters, with an unsprung 6 puck disk. I installed one in my cousin Joes 3rd gen swap last year, at the suggestion of the guys over on mr2oc and aaron @ ATS racing.
The pedal feel on this clutch is REALLY good, not nearly as heavy as the ACT, and the engagement on it is amazing for an unsprung disk.
I talked to my guy, and Clutchmasters will do the 3sgte disk, with the S54 spline, no extra charge, no problem, so that is what I ordered.

His Exhaust system is currently a 3" downpipe, into a 2.5" b-pipe, back into 3" after the crossmember.
For some reason, his exhaust guy couldnt fit 3" piping over the crossmember, so I will be making him a new 3" b-pipe in 304 stainless. I already ordered and recieved a U/J combo bend, 3"X6" flex pipe, and 2 3" flanges.

I also ordered and recieved a bunch of Toyota parts from Aaron from lithia toyota, just about everything I needed, he had in stock, the only thing he didnt have was the spark plug wires, but I have another source for those anyway, which is great. (thanks steff, your the best!)
Here is the list of parts:
Complete Gasket Set
T-Belt and Tensioner ( I will get the idler pully locally)
Oil and Water pumps
Distributor Cap and Rotor (plugs and wires locally)
Fuel Filter
PCV Valve
and some FIPG to do the Oil Pan
Axle Seals
T-stat is being picked up locally thru steff as well

The rest of the small stuff (coolant, oil, gear oil ect), will all be picked up locally when the car arrives.

And here is the kicker of this whole deal... He lives in MN, and will be driving the car to me in MA to perform the swap for him! Awesome!

According to Jim, the motor will arrive next week some time, so for now, here are a few pics of the stuff that has arrived so far:

The Clutchmasters Clutch setup (I still need to measure the disk, i want to verify that it is in fact a 3sgte disk.)



the Exhaust stuff:



and the Toyota parts:



Lots more to come over the next couple weeks once the motor arrives and I start tearing into it.
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post Nov 10, 2011 - 1:43 PM
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Am I the only one who absolutely can NOT stand Competition Clutches? I've put them in MOREFASTs ST215 Celica, burnt up, EasternPiro's Celica, and my current customer's 2JZ/SC300. The feel is horrible, the engagement is less than desireable for even a straight track car. I've also had a few other of my customer's who are members on here call or email me saying their Comp Clutches burnt up as well. Can't say I'm impressed with their quality and reliability. Hope this one works out for you Manny! Good luck with the rest of the swap! Pics please!!! :-)


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post Nov 10, 2011 - 7:22 PM
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QUOTE (PhoenixTech @ Nov 10, 2011 - 1:43 PM) *
Am I the only one who absolutely can NOT stand Competition Clutches? I've put them in MOREFASTs ST215 Celica, burnt up, EasternPiro's Celica, and my current customer's 2JZ/SC300. The feel is horrible, the engagement is less than desireable for even a straight track car. I've also had a few other of my customer's who are members on here call or email me saying their Comp Clutches burnt up as well. Can't say I'm impressed with their quality and reliability. Hope this one works out for you Manny! Good luck with the rest of the swap! Pics please!!! :-)

mine has been ok so far..::knocks on wood:: but i do agree, pedal feel is very heavy, engagement is ok at best.
its holding just fine so far, and held 320ftlbs with the 5sfte, but i definetly will not buy another.
my next clutch without question is gonna be the clutchmasters unsprung 6 puck.


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post Nov 11, 2011 - 9:52 AM
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 10, 2011 - 7:22 PM) *
QUOTE (PhoenixTech @ Nov 10, 2011 - 1:43 PM) *
Am I the only one who absolutely can NOT stand Competition Clutches? I've put them in MOREFASTs ST215 Celica, burnt up, EasternPiro's Celica, and my current customer's 2JZ/SC300. The feel is horrible, the engagement is less than desireable for even a straight track car. I've also had a few other of my customer's who are members on here call or email me saying their Comp Clutches burnt up as well. Can't say I'm impressed with their quality and reliability. Hope this one works out for you Manny! Good luck with the rest of the swap! Pics please!!! :-)

mine has been ok so far..::knocks on wood:: but i do agree, pedal feel is very heavy, engagement is ok at best.
its holding just fine so far, and held 320ftlbs with the 5sfte, but i definetly will not buy another.
my next clutch without question is gonna be the clutchmasters unsprung 6 puck.


That's the clutch I have for my GEN2 swap, haven't had the chance to drive it with that clutch yet, I keep changing plans for the engine, so it's still on a stand :-) Tweak swears by Comp Clutches...I tell him he needs to drive more performance oriented cars with better clutches wink.gif


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Posts in this topic
- presure2   Malecrod's 3rd Gen 3SGTE Swap   Nov 4, 2011 - 4:42 PM
- - SwissFerdi   RE: Malecrod's 3rd Gen 3SGTE Swap   Nov 4, 2011 - 6:10 PM
- - richee3   Very nice! I've met Eli in person. He...   Nov 4, 2011 - 7:25 PM
- - presure2   It will be a pretty much stockish swap, basicly ju...   Nov 5, 2011 - 9:56 AM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 5, 2011 - 10:5...   Nov 5, 2011 - 9:59 AM
- - Neon90424   lol on a 3s 3rd gen you can get way more than enou...   Nov 5, 2011 - 11:13 AM
- - presure2   Don't even need the safc with a 3rd gen. We ty...   Nov 5, 2011 - 2:18 PM
- - Neon90424   manny do you know what the highest hp a stock 3sgt...   Nov 5, 2011 - 2:28 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Nov 5, 2011 - 3:2...   Nov 5, 2011 - 6:15 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Nov 5, 2011 - 3:2...   Nov 5, 2011 - 6:41 PM
- - Neon90424   I'm gonna see how far Water and alky injection...   Nov 5, 2011 - 8:25 PM
- - presure2   Read up on mr2oc about using straight meth VS meth...   Nov 6, 2011 - 9:58 AM
- - malecrod   Hi guys, It took me a while to decide going 3rd ge...   Nov 6, 2011 - 10:36 AM
- - bsamps4   Hey Manny quick question! Looks like you have ...   Nov 7, 2011 - 10:41 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (malecrod @ Nov 6, 2011 - 10:3...   Nov 7, 2011 - 3:41 PM
|- - malecrod   QUOTE (lagos @ Nov 7, 2011 - 3:41 PM...   Nov 7, 2011 - 7:26 PM
- - presure2   QUOTE (bsamps4 @ Nov 7, 2011 - 10:41...   Nov 7, 2011 - 5:02 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (malecrod @ Nov 7, 2011 - 7:26...   Nov 7, 2011 - 8:51 PM
- - PhoenixTech   Am I the only one who absolutely can NOT stand Com...   Nov 10, 2011 - 1:43 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (PhoenixTech @ Nov 10, 2011 - 1...   Nov 10, 2011 - 7:22 PM
|- - PhoenixTech   QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 10, 2011 - 7:2...   Nov 11, 2011 - 9:52 AM
- - 3WayStunna   I will not use competition clutches ever again...t...   Nov 10, 2011 - 4:11 PM
- - rave2n   QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 4, 2011 - 4:42...   Nov 10, 2011 - 7:47 PM
- - presure2   Yea, the clutchmasters is a wayyy better setup, im...   Nov 11, 2011 - 1:45 PM
- - presure2   finally got Eli's engine set in on tuesday. i...   Nov 24, 2011 - 5:49 PM
- - presure2   eli arrived this morning with his car, and will be...   Jan 15, 2012 - 9:51 PM
- - thatmr2   any pics?   Jan 26, 2012 - 3:08 PM
- - presure2   sorry frank, i have really lost my motivation for ...   Feb 4, 2012 - 8:49 AM
- - njccmd2002   ^^ not the only one loosing the motivation. I sti...   Feb 4, 2012 - 9:33 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Feb 4, 2012 - 10...   Feb 5, 2012 - 8:37 AM
- - presure2   a couple pics. old 2nd gen setup, out. new rea...   Feb 5, 2012 - 10:32 AM
- - SwissFerdi   Interesting. Could it be that it came from some ot...   Feb 5, 2012 - 11:31 AM
- - presure2   Motor is in, all thats left is everything.   Feb 5, 2012 - 5:47 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE here is somthing i noticed when i pulled the...   Feb 6, 2012 - 12:16 AM
|- - malecrod   QUOTE (lagos @ Feb 6, 2012 - 12:16 A...   Feb 10, 2012 - 7:39 PM
- - Johnnyny   awesome job   Feb 6, 2012 - 4:48 AM
- - Nemises   Nice work Pressure. So Malcrod what are you doin...   Feb 9, 2012 - 3:30 PM
|- - malecrod   QUOTE (Nemises @ Feb 9, 2012 - 3:30 ...   Feb 10, 2012 - 7:34 PM
- - richee3   That's a shame to hear that you don't enjo...   Feb 14, 2012 - 3:04 PM
|- - malecrod   QUOTE (richee3 @ Feb 14, 2012 - 4:04...   Feb 14, 2012 - 10:34 PM
- - SwissFerdi   17x8 is a fantastic choice, I'd love a set mys...   Feb 14, 2012 - 11:25 PM
- - ricochet1490   When you're the best there is, it gets boring ...   Feb 15, 2012 - 1:43 PM


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