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post Dec 11, 2011 - 7:40 PM
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been thinking about swapping a 3vz into my celica
I know the carry an is300 both came with them but was three anything else
options on other swaps will be considered too I mainly want something that makes more power than the 5s but I can still order parts for at autozone only other thing is I don't want to spent 5000 on just the swap alone before install just want extra power but have to stay simi cheap (for the price of the swap itself)
an be able to dd this for a year or so lol
thanks for your help


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post Dec 12, 2011 - 6:05 PM
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I have never seen a 1MZ that was anywhere near 1600 - 2000. I got mine with 90k confirmed miles with all accessories for $750. If you're buying one of the newer 1MZ's (97+) then maybe, but it's a newer motor, it's lighter, and ultimately more delicate than the 3VZ. If your build plans involve turbo, then 3VZ is your best bet. If you're going to stay n/a or a TRD S/C then 1MZ - specifically the 97+ because it becomes PnP. have MR220V do up a harness, mate it to a S54 to retain axles, have a passenger mount fabricated, bolt in, plug in, and away you go. The newer version of the 1MZ have ~190whp. They go up to just under 250 with the factory s/c and no other supporting modifications. Add in headers (a major bottleneck on the 1MZ), intake, exhaust, Walbro or Supra fuel pump, and potentially a standalone EMS down the road and you've got yourself set for a reliable low maintenance powerhouse.


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post Dec 13, 2011 - 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 12, 2011 - 3:05 PM) *
I have never seen a 1MZ that was anywhere near 1600 - 2000. I got mine with 90k confirmed miles with all accessories for $750. If you're buying one of the newer 1MZ's (97+) then maybe, but it's a newer motor, it's lighter, and ultimately more delicate than the 3VZ. If your build plans involve turbo, then 3VZ is your best bet. If you're going to stay n/a or a TRD S/C then 1MZ - specifically the 97+ because it becomes PnP. have MR220V do up a harness, mate it to a S54 to retain axles, have a passenger mount fabricated, bolt in, plug in, and away you go. The newer version of the 1MZ have ~190whp. They go up to just under 250 with the factory s/c and no other supporting modifications. Add in headers (a major bottleneck on the 1MZ), intake, exhaust, Walbro or Supra fuel pump, and potentially a standalone EMS down the road and you've got yourself set for a reliable low maintenance powerhouse.


Of course it's always better when it's not FWD... wink.gif


You're right. I swear when I looked last there was only three in the $1600 range but now there are 18 from $450 to $1000. I must have been searching for the engine using a different car like the lexus.

3VZ would deffinatly be best for the turbo. I haven't heard any good things about the supercharger for the 1mz even though it was a genuine TRD. I plan on staying NA so the lightness and newness of the 3MZ appeals to me.

What have you heard obout the oil gelling issue with the 1MZ? That's the only thing holding me back from that engine. Sorry for the thread jack but I think more discussion about the V6 swap is a good thing.

Another note about the trany. The 3VZ/E53 combo was in larger and heavier cars. I'm no engineer but using the S54 in the Celica should do ok for a while.
post Dec 13, 2011 - 7:48 PM
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QUOTE (RocketScott @ Dec 13, 2011 - 9:06 AM) *
QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 12, 2011 - 3:05 PM) *
I have never seen a 1MZ that was anywhere near 1600 - 2000. I got mine with 90k confirmed miles with all accessories for $750. If you're buying one of the newer 1MZ's (97+) then maybe, but it's a newer motor, it's lighter, and ultimately more delicate than the 3VZ. If your build plans involve turbo, then 3VZ is your best bet. If you're going to stay n/a or a TRD S/C then 1MZ - specifically the 97+ because it becomes PnP. have MR220V do up a harness, mate it to a S54 to retain axles, have a passenger mount fabricated, bolt in, plug in, and away you go. The newer version of the 1MZ have ~190whp. They go up to just under 250 with the factory s/c and no other supporting modifications. Add in headers (a major bottleneck on the 1MZ), intake, exhaust, Walbro or Supra fuel pump, and potentially a standalone EMS down the road and you've got yourself set for a reliable low maintenance powerhouse.


Of course it's always better when it's not FWD... wink.gif


You're right. I swear when I looked last there was only three in the $1600 range but now there are 18 from $450 to $1000. I must have been searching for the engine using a different car like the lexus.

3VZ would deffinatly be best for the turbo. I haven't heard any good things about the supercharger for the 1mz even though it was a genuine TRD. I plan on staying NA so the lightness and newness of the 3MZ appeals to me.

What have you heard obout the oil gelling issue with the 1MZ? That's the only thing holding me back from that engine. Sorry for the thread jack but I think more discussion about the V6 swap is a good thing.

Another note about the trany. The 3VZ/E53 combo was in larger and heavier cars. I'm no engineer but using the S54 in the Celica should do ok for a while.


My 1MZ was from a Lexus... typically attributed with the higher price tag. You just need to know where to look. There is a Toyota junkyard near my place and I am friends with the owner's son... so if I need things that is where I go.

When I tore mine down there wasn't any sludge in it. Keep up on oil changes and you'll never have the problem. The TRD supercharger is good for small power gains. For anything else you would want to get a custom Eaton M90.


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Posts in this topic
- kurt95gt   what all cars came with a 3vzfe   Dec 11, 2011 - 7:40 PM
- - richee3   IS 300 is a 2JZ. I think you meant ES 300. If I...   Dec 11, 2011 - 8:02 PM
- - kurt95gt   thanks richee3 I was hoping for more than those 2 ...   Dec 11, 2011 - 8:25 PM
- - richee3   The 1MZ seems like a good option as well, slightly...   Dec 11, 2011 - 9:35 PM
|- - kurt95gt   QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 11, 2011 - 10:3...   Dec 11, 2011 - 9:46 PM
- - stephen_lee   ECU dont give a dam wether or not the auto is atta...   Dec 11, 2011 - 11:21 PM
- - kurt95gt   95celicast has his 1mz back by a s54 so I figure f...   Dec 11, 2011 - 11:37 PM
- - Smaay   the S54 will take the power no problem. the toyo...   Dec 12, 2011 - 12:13 PM
- - kurt95gt   im Goin with3vz due to how easy I seemto be able t...   Dec 12, 2011 - 12:38 PM
- - RocketScott   I've been doing a little research on the topic...   Dec 12, 2011 - 12:56 PM
- - kurt95gt   im Goin 3vz I've found 4-6 local all for under...   Dec 12, 2011 - 1:04 PM
- - stephen_lee   The manual 3vz came with an e53 trans. the s54 sho...   Dec 12, 2011 - 2:34 PM
- - richee3   The S54 can handle around 300 hp but as it has bee...   Dec 12, 2011 - 3:29 PM
- - kurt95gt   thanks for the info trace done the math an said my...   Dec 12, 2011 - 4:09 PM
- - kurt95gt   oh an I got approved for my loan for 1000 that won...   Dec 12, 2011 - 4:15 PM
- - kurt95gt   I will be swapping the trans at a much later date ...   Dec 12, 2011 - 4:28 PM
- - 95CelicaST   I have never seen a 1MZ that was anywhere near 160...   Dec 12, 2011 - 6:05 PM
|- - RocketScott   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 12, 2011 - 3...   Dec 13, 2011 - 12:06 PM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (RocketScott @ Dec 13, 2011 - 11...   Dec 13, 2011 - 5:48 PM
|- - 95CelicaST   QUOTE (RocketScott @ Dec 13, 2011 - 9...   Dec 13, 2011 - 7:48 PM
- - kurt95gt   the motor is stage 1 so to speak turbo planned aft...   Dec 12, 2011 - 7:52 PM
- - stephen_lee   im trying to tackle the harness myself. its kinda ...   Dec 12, 2011 - 8:11 PM
- - kurt95gt   lmk how urs turns out an if you feel confident to ...   Dec 12, 2011 - 8:46 PM
- - kurt95gt   I just missed out on a 3vz for 600 but it all wor...   Dec 13, 2011 - 1:01 PM
- - RocketScott   It's better to know someone with an engine hoi...   Dec 13, 2011 - 2:38 PM
- - kurt95gt   id rather have my own cuz this is one if 3 getting...   Dec 13, 2011 - 3:47 PM
- - kurt95gt   ok is there any difference between a 4runner 3vz a...   Dec 13, 2011 - 5:47 PM
- - kurt95gt   I hope so lol im normally easy on my car from a da...   Dec 13, 2011 - 5:59 PM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 13, 2011 - 4:5...   Dec 13, 2011 - 6:17 PM
- - kurt95gt   ok scratch that idea   Dec 13, 2011 - 6:37 PM
- - kurt95gt   ok could some list what models some of these other...   Dec 13, 2011 - 8:45 PM
- - RocketScott   I just got my 5S back in the car tonight. The pas...   Dec 13, 2011 - 9:20 PM
- - kurt95gt   thanks ill look into these more as some as I can n...   Dec 13, 2011 - 10:26 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Your list doesn't have the early model 1MZ on ...   Dec 13, 2011 - 11:45 PM
|- - kurt95gt   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 14, 2011 - 12...   Dec 14, 2011 - 12:35 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Camry and es300. Apparently they are not prone to ...   Dec 14, 2011 - 8:35 AM
- - kurt95gt   haha that's the year range the junk yards been...   Dec 14, 2011 - 10:10 AM
- - kurt95gt   ok the junk yard has a complete swap (motor no tra...   Dec 14, 2011 - 10:16 AM
- - kurt95gt   Ok talked to the junk yard again they have still i...   Dec 14, 2011 - 10:31 AM
- - 95CelicaST   My harness was done by MR220V on MR2.com and MR2OC...   Dec 14, 2011 - 11:14 AM
- - kurt95gt   ok ill keep that in mind thank you ill try to get ...   Dec 14, 2011 - 11:39 AM
- - kurt95gt   wtf is the deal with a flywheel for this motor can...   Dec 14, 2011 - 2:29 PM
- - 95CelicaST   I didn't bore anything out. I bought a Fidanza...   Dec 14, 2011 - 3:21 PM
- - kurt95gt   ok I thought I read someone modded the s54 flywhee...   Dec 14, 2011 - 3:42 PM
- - 95CelicaST   No, the clutch was $340, and the Flywheel was...   Dec 14, 2011 - 5:33 PM
- - kurt95gt   has anyone tryed a s54 flywheel to see how far off...   Dec 14, 2011 - 5:46 PM
- - kurt95gt   Im picking up 3vz/e53 Saturday 500 for pair   Dec 15, 2011 - 10:00 AM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 15, 2011 - 9:0...   Dec 15, 2011 - 10:09 AM
- - kurt95gt   yea only now got some bad news idk if im getting...   Dec 15, 2011 - 11:36 AM
- - kurt95gt   found another 3vz for 550 they pull it an I dont ...   Dec 15, 2011 - 2:04 PM
- - kurt95gt   ok this is probably a stupid question but do I nee...   Dec 15, 2011 - 2:48 PM
- - stephen_lee   im droppin mine in at 270xxx miles w/o a rebuild. ...   Dec 15, 2011 - 8:03 PM
- - richee3   Better safe than sorry. I'd at least replace p...   Dec 15, 2011 - 8:10 PM
- - kurt95gt   I plan on basically everything richee3 said but I ...   Dec 15, 2011 - 8:34 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Tear the motor down and check the bores for damage...   Dec 16, 2011 - 9:02 AM
- - kurt95gt   yea im gonna atleast drop the oilman an check unde...   Dec 16, 2011 - 10:47 AM
- - stephen_lee   I'm not turboing this motor. Im just getting i...   Dec 16, 2011 - 11:46 AM
- - kurt95gt   ahh ok well depending on how it seems to run I may...   Dec 16, 2011 - 12:01 PM
- - kurt95gt   so went to look at what I thought was going to be ...   Dec 17, 2011 - 6:28 PM
- - richee3   Win!   Dec 17, 2011 - 8:42 PM
- - kurt95gt   I hope your right now I just have a few things im ...   Dec 17, 2011 - 8:53 PM
- - 95CelicaST   RE: what all cars came with a 3vzfe   Dec 17, 2011 - 9:16 PM
|- - kurt95gt   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 17, 2011 - 9...   Dec 17, 2011 - 9:23 PM
- - RocketScott   Looking forward to seeing how it goes!   Dec 18, 2011 - 5:12 PM
- - kurt95gt   anyone kno of a link that can show me what all nee...   Dec 19, 2011 - 10:35 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Your best bet is to hop over onto MR2OC and dig th...   Dec 20, 2011 - 11:36 AM
|- - kurt95gt   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 20, 2011 - 11...   Dec 20, 2011 - 12:49 PM
- - 95CelicaST   yes. www.mr2oc.com   Dec 20, 2011 - 1:11 PM
- - kurt95gt   found it an read a couple threads so far nothing o...   Dec 20, 2011 - 1:26 PM
- - kurt95gt   ok so I ended up at mr2oc.co.uk lol but I found th...   Dec 20, 2011 - 2:07 PM
- - 95CelicaST   If the Celica has the same return-style fuel syste...   Dec 20, 2011 - 4:16 PM
|- - kurt95gt   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Dec 20, 2011 - 5...   Dec 20, 2011 - 4:44 PM
- - kurt95gt   ok im thinking the awnser is a no but does the 3vz...   Dec 26, 2011 - 7:05 PM
- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 26, 2011 - 6:0...   Dec 27, 2011 - 10:01 AM


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